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Boatyarddog · 26-09-2022, 14:00

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Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Any system that has any sort of large homelessness criss that results in semi derelict boat liveaboards needs to seriously address social housing. If it’s genuinely seen ( boats ) as a “ viable” option for the poor that’s a terrible indictment

Make available subsidised housing for the poor and the live aboard anchorage issue will disappear. .

House the poor.

Good comment

There are those that Will Not jump the hoops though.
They've been abused so much they cannot trust the help.

They will retain their autonomy, until shown other better opportunity.
Worked with homelessness for years.

It's an unfortunate position not easily rectified.
And requires a lot of Trust.
BYD

Cynara · 26-09-2022, 15:32

House the homeless is good, using boats for that is not good

Boatyarddog · 26-09-2022, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Cynara

House the homeless is good, using boats for that is not good

In Olympia, we have a lot of homeless, in tents, cars, ect. looking for a better opportunity.
Boats can serve a step in the right direction.
Place to sleep, showers, cook top, the next step is work on a regular basis.

However the rents in Olympia are steep for most of our community, even Grandmas and Grampas!

Many on fixed income, without subsidies there would be a lot more problems.
More crime, more of everything bad.

BYD

GreenWave · 26-09-2022, 16:56

All Have the opportunity. It is what you make of it. Yea we get thrown curveballs and we have to deal with those. Certainly it is easier for some than others but we all have the same opportunity.

goboatingnow · 26-09-2022, 17:02

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Originally Posted by GreenWave

All Have the opportunity. It is what you make of it. Yea we get thrown curveballs and we have to deal with those. Certainly it is easier for some than others but we all have the same opportunity.

People do not have equality of opportunity by virtue of race , social class , education , inherited wealth , intelligence , health etc.

A caring society tries to provide a safety net for those

Boatyarddog · 26-09-2022, 17:10

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Originally Posted by goboatingnow

People do not have equality of opportunity by virtue of race , social class , education , inherited wealth , intelligence , health etc.

A caring society tries to provide a safety net for those

TRULY appriciate this comment.
And Green Wave?
Wow!
Thats so incorrect.

BYD

Cynara · 26-09-2022, 19:51

Obviously I disagree. If you can't live in a small apartment you can't maintain a boat

GreenWave · 26-09-2022, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

TRULY appriciate this comment.
And Green Wave?
Wow!
Thats so incorrect.

BYD

Wonder what the kid who got accepted to every Ivy League school thinks about this? That kid took his opportunity and amplified it. If one can do it why not two, and ten, and a thousand. It’s a four letter word quite frankly that explains those who cannot achieve what they want.

Since we have drifted so far off topic that we are now on dry land I will abstain from further comment.

Boatyarddog · 26-09-2022, 20:46

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Originally Posted by GreenWave

Wonder what the kid who got accepted to every Ivy League school thinks about this? That kid took his opportunity and amplified it. If one can do it why not two, and ten, and a thousand. It’s a four letter word quite frankly that explains those who cannot achieve what they want.

Since we have drifted so far off topic that we are now on dry land I will abstain from further comment.

We are talking about Floridas antihomeless and livaboard hate.

Sorry mate, youve bugged out of reality.
So, a mans homes his castle.
And, on a vessel its the deck.
Not My mess, so?

As far as opportuinity?
Its vacant in America, unless you have an "in" For the most part.
Some Hard Cash!
BYD

Boatyarddog · 26-09-2022, 20:52

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Originally Posted by Cynara

Obviously I disagree. If you can't live in a small apartment you can't maintain a boat

Thats truly funny, considering the boating lifestyle.. well, sailors mainly, most are frugal.
Not the Yachtie Types.
1200 Month for studios here.
2000+ for old aptmnts.
BYD

Cynara · 27-09-2022, 01:02

The original title of this post was cruisers not welcome in Florida. If you don't go anywhere your not a cruiser. Maintaining a boat is work and can be costly. Lets say you get called for a job interview you have to be able to get there rain or shine. You have to be prepared for hurricanes. If boat is not well taken care of then you will have issues. Now if you are in a marina that is better, also expensive than living on the hook.