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Old 18-04-2011, 04:07   #76
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

I would think there would be issues with overhead clearance. The causeway and adjoining parkway can't even accommodate large buses.
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Old 18-04-2011, 17:18   #77
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

We were out there visiting friends this weekend and got to see poor old Papillon. One person said that she was afloat during the storm Saturday night. If only a line had already been led out to a heavy anchor (or a series of them), maybe she could've been winched out through the surf. Though I admit, that surf is damned powerful, and unlikely to take kindly to a large boat passing outward through it.

See below where I briefly take command of the vessel and say, "Fetch me that horizon!" Well, it works in the movies. . . .
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

What I find strange is that the owners have not already stripped everything off her (of value and not) to save what might have been re-usable and to lighten her up (including the masts) - and to gain internal access.

Could also have welded shut / blanked most of the hatches / ports. and installed some pumps to remove the sand. A couple of anchors to try and stop her heading further up the beach might be no bad thing. and on the way back to sea being steel could probably be pretty brutal with a bull dozer

Of course best that can be hoped for is an empty shell to start again with - even if only onto E-bay. I guess (in that part of the world) still plenty of downsides once the bureacracy kicks into gear with bill(s) for the cleanup operation, if the owner doesn't do it himself. Me would have wanted to present a fait accompli to those whose job () it is to say "no"...........
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

Will be interesting to hear what was going on behind the scenes here. There's got to be a reason why no serious attempts have been made to rescue her. I wonder if bureaucrats have been involved in the inaction and just what legal trip wires are snagged when going up on a national seashore. If she has buoyancy, as indicated above, every time a tide surge comes in, it will just push her up higher.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

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There's got to be a reason why no serious attempts have been made to rescue her.
Yup, it's called economics. The owner doesn't have insurance, and so far hasn't come up with the funds to pay for professional help.

The officials who manage that beach would love nothing more than to have the boat removed.
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I think Doug's got it right. If there had been insurance someone might have taken the risk to pull it off the beach. Without the chance of any payback there it lies. I wonder if even a Tow Boat U.S. or SEATOW plan might have helped get her off the first day? I would expect U.S. taxpayers will be footing the bill at some point and it will be costing a lot more than it should have to get it off the beach.
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I doubt if one of the tow service boats could have helped. If they could corral one of the local draggers with some serious hp, it might be possible to just yank her off on a high tide. You would think though, that someone would be shoveling out the bilges, taking the rig down, securing the hatches and at least attempting to get her ready for an attempt. Maybe she has some sprung plates and cannot be floated.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

WHAT A SHAME!!!! It's like watching a wounded animal that can't move. Either Man up with manpower and equipment to do SOMETHING or put the poor thing to sleep. GEEZ!
Get those damn kids out there with plastic buckets and shovels and put 'em to work.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

Any updates on this?
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I've been looking around nothing yet. Been kind of a nasty wet weekend on Long Island. Don't think many would venture out to the beach.
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

The weather cleared up in the afternoon and some bloggers headed out to see her. Here are the latest photos. Looks like she has a visitor:

Ashore 5 « tugster: a waterblog

Saltaire38: The Return of a Seal to View LePapillon on Easter Recalls Fire Island's Centuries Old Reputation as "Seal Island"
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They dragged her off the beach today.

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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

I don't imagine that did her any good. Any idea what's next?
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

I hope she can be saved (crossed fingers)
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Re: Beached Schooner on Fire Island

Please keep us updated.

I'll bet that got rid of the hard growth.
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