Can I refer to my catamaran as a ship?

[jlcnuke]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

except the boat is a ship carrier [emoji12]

That's a ship shipping ship shipping ships I believe.

[Zzmeyer]

If you are in a bar chatting up someone of the opposite sex, your boat should always be referred to as a "ship" or a "yacht"

[Dooglas]

An old bosun explained to me that a boat is something you stow on the deck of a ship. I believe catamarans are often set on the deck of a ship for transport. (in other words, it seems pretentious to me to refer to a 50' cruising catamaran as a ship)

[SV Bacchus]

Originally Posted by CatNewBee

except the boat is a ship carrier [emoji12]

WOW, and some folks worry their flybridge is high off the water!

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by Dooglas

An old bosun explained to me that a boat is something you stow on the deck of a ship. I believe catamarans are often set on the deck of a ship for transport. (in other words, it seems pretentious to me to refer to a 50' cruising catamaran as a ship)

there is a dinghi on the davits (boat), a life raft underneath, a kayak on the trampoline, it qualifies for a ship according that definition. Its a boots carrier.

[doublewide]

We figure out this sort of social convention by trial and error, and have learned to use different terms for different situations. Sometimes I live on a "boat" or a "catamaran", sometimes a "little ship", or a "sailing vessel", and occasionally "in a double-wide", depending upon the situation.

It reminds me of a friend, an airline captain, who flew 747's from the USA to Asia for years. He often told people he drove an "18-wheeler." Look at a 747 and you will see that he was telling the truth.

[Lihuedooley77]

Over a period of about 40 years, We just refer to our sailing vessels that we have owned and also sailing and motor vessels that we have bare boated as " Boats" . Those are up to the 65' range.

Erica owned and single handed a beautiful new Crealock 37 sailing vessel , later and we were partners in an Ericson/Olsen 34 . We called them boats.

To us a beautiful roomy, sea going condo maximal large catamaran is a boat. But, that is us, and, you can call your catamaran a ship if you wish .

To us, when someone says ship, we think of cruise ships, cargo ships, container ships, Very Large Crude Carriers, Navy Ships, destroyers, cruisers, etc .

However, in the U.S., Naval Air, the pilots referred to the humoungo Aircraft Carrier, irreverntly but loved, as "THE BOAT. "

Submarines, are not known as ships, they are called boats. And the boomers, carry enough nuclear missiles to totally whup on on most countries .

On the other side of the coin, we have sailing friends, here in Southern California, who are members of a Yacht Club, aptly named ....The LITTLE SHIPS. ( from back in history....see below )

Big deal, during WW2, Fleets of small personal boats of all kinds sailed from England and aided in the evacuation of Dunkirk. Helping to save couple of hundred thousand british and allied troops lives .

Those brave vessels are known today as

"THE LITTLE SHIPS."


But our friends referred to their own vessel, a brand new Ericson, as their
'Boat '.

Most times when inviting friends to come sailing with us, we just ask if " they would like to come sailing. "

Then they ask " What kind of a boat do you have ? "

We tell them " A such and such sailing vessel and the length. "

After all this ..... "Call your vessel what ever you wish, and go out and have a grand ol time ! "

[anacapaisland42]

Only if you wear a Captains Hat with braid

Originally Posted by Whiz-Bang

Just wondering what qualifies as a ship. Can a sailing yacht be a ship? Does it have anything to do with the size of the vessel?

[Whiz-Bang]

Originally Posted by anacapaisland42

Only if you wear a Captains Hat with braid

Worth it!

[Salty Seaman]

Ask the Captain of the "Queen Mary" if he's sailing a ship or boat.

[CatNewBee]

Originally Posted by anacapaisland42

Only if you wear a Captains Hat with braid

I depends if you are sailing (sv), boating around (mv), hanging out at the dock in the yacht club (sy) or shipping freight / visitors around (ship)

[Smooth Cruiser]

You have a boat. You can call it whatever you want, particularly if you don't mind what others think about you.

[Bundyon]

Call your vessel whatever you want! During my Naval indocrination & subsequent seamanship courses we were told that most vessels above 300 feet in length were Ships, the exception being Submarines, referred to as Boats, regardless of size and Barges were Barges, regardless of size. Anything under 300' is a boat!

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by Alan Mighty

Yeah. But the Australian government follows a philosophy of empty nominalism.

Kongzi 孔子, the Chinese sage known in European tongues as Confucius, had an idea he called the Rectification of Names. The core of the idea is that names without substance behind them are jokes that only turn people into fools should they use such empty names. So a name should mean something and not be just an empty label, a label without meaning.

For example, the Aus parliament in 2007 passed a law called The Australian Citizenship Act 2007 to replace the Australian Citizenship Act 1948.

The 1948 Act was the legislation that, for the first time, changed Australians from being "British subjects" to "Australian citizens".

However, neither the 1948 Act nor the 2007 Act nor any subsequent amendment to the 2007 Act have created any substance to the notion of "Australian citizenship". Australian citizens have no "rights" compared to, for example, US citizens. No right of free speech (other than an implied right, according to a court interpretation), no right to travel, and so on. No Bill of Rights. Rights are instead reserved for the State, which lets people do only what it lets people do.

So Australian "citizenship" is empty. No substance to it. A joke.

Just as is the idea that an Australian registered "ship" is a ship just because an Australian parliamentary act gives legal authority for the register of vessels and then calls all vessels "ships".

Calling small craft "ships" is a joke. Only clowns do so. Are you a clown?

Apparently there are a lot of clowns around.

Overseas customs and immigration offices for instance. All the forms I've filled out referred to a ship, and a ship's captain, never a boat or boat's skipper.

Maybe when it's done an international voyage a boat qualifies as a ship?

[Ferrari]

Quite!!
Anything else?
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