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Whiz-Bang · 22-07-2018, 17:30

Just wondering what qualifies as a ship. Can a sailing yacht be a ship? Does it have anything to do with the size of the vessel?

AKA-None · 22-07-2018, 17:33

Super yachts are ships. If yours is that large you may call it whatever you want

El Pinguino · 22-07-2018, 17:52

Yes... you can... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ship_Club

and also... my Certificate of British Registry refers to my boat as a ship...

and the SSR is the Small Ship Register https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/ssr/ssr/

Whiz-Bang · 22-07-2018, 18:00

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Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Yes... you can... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ship_Club

and also... my Certificate of British Registry refers to my boat as a ship...

and the SSR is the Small Ship Register https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/ssr/ssr/

Woohoo!

Simi 60 · 22-07-2018, 18:06

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Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Yes... you can... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ship_Club

and also... my Certificate of British Registry refers to my boat as a ship...

and the SSR is the Small Ship Register https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/ssr/ssr/

One around the corner from where we are now

Little Ship Club - Home

We have a boat
If we called her a ship I'd probably have to buy a dicky hat, white pants and navy jacket to look the part (; .

danielamartindm · 22-07-2018, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Whiz-Bang

Just wondering what qualifies as a ship. Can a sailing yacht be a ship? Does it have anything to do with the size of the vessel?

As there are two hulls, you can even call it "The Fleet," if you want

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darylat8750 · 22-07-2018, 19:26

I call mine the "work boat". It's work is to haul me around. That way a little bit of oiled teak is a bit of "fancy" instead of required bright work.

LoudMusic · 22-07-2018, 19:35

I've heard a few definitions that I like but my favorite is that "Ships carry boats". Does your catamaran carry a boat?

Nicholson58 · 22-07-2018, 20:10

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Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Yes... you can... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ship_Club

and also... my Certificate of British Registry refers to my boat as a ship...

and the SSR is the Small Ship Register https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/ssr/ssr/

Ours is a Lloyds registered ship as manufactured and tagged next to the makers SN tag.

Still a plastic lined hole in the water.

44'cruisingcat · 22-07-2018, 22:06

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Originally Posted by LoudMusic

I've heard a few definitions that I like but my favorite is that "Ships carry boats". Does your catamaran carry a boat?

Yes. A 12 foot RIB with 15 hp motor.

Ours is registered as an Australian ship.

RaymondR · 22-07-2018, 23:31

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Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Yes. A 12 foot RIB with 15 hp motor.

Ours is registered as an Australian ship.

The Australian registration folks don't recognize anything but "ships" no matter the size. No "boats" or "vessels" for those folks.

Alan Mighty · 23-07-2018, 00:37

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Originally Posted by RaymondR

The Australian registration folks don't recognize anything but "ships" no matter the size. No "boats" or "vessels" for those folks.

Yeah. But the Australian government follows a philosophy of empty nominalism.

Kongzi 孔子, the Chinese sage known in European tongues as Confucius, had an idea he called the Rectification of Names. The core of the idea is that names without substance behind them are jokes that only turn people into fools should they use such empty names. So a name should mean something and not be just an empty label, a label without meaning.

For example, the Aus parliament in 2007 passed a law called The Australian Citizenship Act 2007 to replace the Australian Citizenship Act 1948.

The 1948 Act was the legislation that, for the first time, changed Australians from being "British subjects" to "Australian citizens".

However, neither the 1948 Act nor the 2007 Act nor any subsequent amendment to the 2007 Act have created any substance to the notion of "Australian citizenship". Australian citizens have no "rights" compared to, for example, US citizens. No right of free speech (other than an implied right, according to a court interpretation), no right to travel, and so on. No Bill of Rights. Rights are instead reserved for the State, which lets people do only what it lets people do.

So Australian "citizenship" is empty. No substance to it. A joke.

Just as is the idea that an Australian registered "ship" is a ship just because an Australian parliamentary act gives legal authority for the register of vessels and then calls all vessels "ships".

Calling small craft "ships" is a joke. Only clowns do so. Are you a clown?

captmikem · 23-07-2018, 08:59

You can "Ship your oars" in your dingy, so call it a ship as well if you like.

You boat, you can call it whatever you want.

Call it an airplane or cruise ship or a train if you want.

People might look at you strange when you say you are going to take your train down the ICW or across the Atlantic.

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