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[malbert73]

Originally Posted by k-bob

Boatman 61. Is the wildcat same as the wharram that some are refering to?
Does any one know anything about Gemini 105mc?
Seen several of those available at reasonable prices.

Sorry to jump in.
I totally forgot about Gemini 105Mc. That at one point was my dream boat given price. i think theyve done a great job to optimize price, and liveabilitu given limitations on size and beam.
As I understand it, they are built to a price point, but quality consistency will likely improve quite a bit now that Hunter is building them. Big issue everyone mentions is hull slap since bridgedeck is low, but with that ultra shallow draft you can anchor near shore and barely feel a ripple.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by k-bob

Boatman 61. Is the wildcat same as the wharram that some are refering to?

Nope... a Wildcat is a production boat... a Wharam you buy the plans and then commision a builder or.... if either very good with wood or totally insane... you build it yourself...
A few examples below... the red ones a Tiki 30, the black an Ariki 48....
Oh a little adendum posted on the Wharram site....

Dodgey Builders
We would like to draw attention to the problems people have experienced by ordering their Wharram catamaran to be built by the ‘RB Power & Sailing’ yard of Raoul Bianchetti in Pattaya, Thailand.

The first boat built was a heavily modified Tiki 38, of which the owner refused to take delivery and which since being launched in February 2009 has broken up at anchor. The second Tiki 38, which was being build for Warren Matthews, was removed from the yard last January for finishing in New Zealand, after the owner discovered serious deficiencies in the build.

You can read about Warren’s experiences at:
http://naturalhigh-adventures.com/warren-blog/2009/8/18/would-my-boat-have-met-the-same-fate-as-creed-ohanlons.html

Practices like these are the reason for James Wharram Designs setting up Franchised Yards, where the owners can be sure to get a correctly built, high quality Wharram Design. RB Power & Sailing is NOT a franchised yard!

Franchised Wharram Yards:
Andy Smith Boatworks in Bohol, Philippines: www.andy-smith-boatworks.com
Boatsmith in Florida, USA: www.boatsmithfl.com
Seacape in Phuket, Thailand: www.seascape-asia.com
Viking Boats in Mumbai, India is at present only available to build smaller Wharram cats (up to Tiki 38) for the home market. www.vikingboats.in

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by malbert73

See yesterday's post May 9 at 04:28. He distinctly mentions not wanting to camp.
Nice as Wharrams are I am told, and they are more my style, they are much more spartan than a modern luxury cat.
I'd love to hear dissenting opinions based in reality which may give me hope of someday purchasing one of my dream boats...

The price you pay for that sexy saloon/galley up is slamming....
As for lower cockpits... Wharrams have the highest underdeck freeboard of 99% of Cats... and with an average 48% beam ratio will be a damn sight wider cockpit than your mono...
And if this is "Camping".... its fine by me... take a look at this interior..
James Wharram Catamarans - Photo albums.

[Khagan1227]

"tis a nice boat, as is the Wilds.... for cats.

We've look at both, and even had a moment of madness pass us by with the notion to try to build a Warrie... then reality set in.

[Dennis.G]

If you are in Southern California (you mentioned sails to Catalina) and plan on paying slip rent for a few years, better check around at the area marinas. Southern Cal is very expensive slip rents, and you have to pay be big premiun for an end-tie to be able to berth a cat. End-ties can also be hard to find. Just something to make sure you allow for in your budget.

[k-bob]

Yeah, I was wondering about the low bridge
Deck. What about the fact there are no
Tramps in the front? The low bridge deck
Was the thing that first turned me off
To that boat, but you have to make trade
Offs so I started looking at it again and
It seems you can get a lot of boat for
The money, especially a good used one.
Thanks for the info.

[imagine2frolic]

That Wharram interior looks like Imagine´s.....NICE......i2f