Cruisers Vs Sailors

[Delancey]

Upside down world.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

I think there is a big difference between cruisers and sailors. Cruisers sail to get from point A to B. Sailors sail for the pure enjoyment of sailing. There may be some who are both. Live-aboards are a totally different breed.

Baloney. As a cruiser, I love sailing, that's why I have a sailboat. It would be a hell of a lot easier, oftentimes, if I went with a power boat. I don't do that because of the sailing.

The only difference is, IMHO, the length of the voyage. "Sailors" by this artificial distinction, go shorter distances. It's a lot easier to sail to a certain standard when you're on a 5-hour sojourn on the Chespeake. It's an entirely different experience when you are on a multi-day passage across an ocean. For cruisers, there's the fatigue level and therefore sails may not always be trimmed for maximum efficiency. Likewise, a cruiser is setting the boat up in a forward thinking way that a "sailor" isn't. In other words, a cruiser might not put up extra sail, or leave in a reef longer than necessary, because he/she anticipates a change in conditions in the medium-term.

So, to suggest that one is out there simply "for the love of sailing" and the other is not, is simply wrong. There are just different priorities.

[CoolBeans]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

I think there is a big difference between cruisers and sailors. Cruisers sail to get from point A to B. Sailors sail for the pure enjoyment of sailing. There may be some who are both. Live-aboards are a totally different breed.

And I think there is common denominator, ie:

"What are you working on?"

BTW, some of us live aboards to go sailing

[Dayo]

Art is a diverse range of human activities in creating visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), expressing imaginative or technical skill, ...

You are all artists.

P.S though some favor B@#$%$#T

[rwidman]

Originally Posted by CoolBeans

.............. BTW, some of us live aboards to go sailing

Yes. People live on a boat but move it from place to place. So they are liveaboards, cruisers and sailors. Unless they live and cruise on a powerboat.

BTW: Why do the cruise ships (which are not "sailboats") say they "sail" or "set sail" at a certain time?

[barnakiel]

I do not believe creating artifacts is art.

Art is expression.

Art can be a communion.

Like you fall in love and you write a poem.

Like you stand in front of a painting and it moves you.

I think these movements of human soul, this is art.

Artifacts are not works of art.

Not everybody gets art. Many confuse art with craft.

b.

[Dayo]

An artifact is an expression of culture. By definition an artifact is a work of art (an object made by a human being, typically an item of cultural or historical interest.).

At risk of hijacking the thread, Art is boundless and void of definition, as are all the people involved with boating. The many possible interpretations of sailor, cruiser and other boater mind sets makes the whole activity an art. Reading this thread invokes images and emotion in the readers mind. I enjoyed this in the same manner as any other art.

If you create boundaries and definitions, that is just government or religion.