Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > General Sailing Forum
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 16-11-2018, 15:42   #1
cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

WOW!!!

Kenomac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2018, 17:20   #2
Registered User
 
Polux's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 6,140
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

That's the British mule. Things are becoming interesting

Polux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2018, 17:51   #3
Registered User
 
fxykty's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Indonesia
Boat: Outremer 55L
Posts: 3,936
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

Interesting that American Magic and Ineos Team UK have launched half scale (or so) models of the new AC monohull class yet the originators of the class Team NZ and Luna Rossa have not, or perhaps have and are keeping it totally under wraps. Haven’t seen anything on the Hauraki Gulf yet. All I’ve seen so far from Team NZ are YTs of the full size hydraulics for the main foils. Will that be shared tech or does each team need to develop their own?

Amazing boats and really cool to see that they’re doing all manoeuvres points of sail on foil. Might that be due to the scaled boats having more lift proportionately than full size?

Between this and the foils being developed by the IMOCA 60s and the maxi tris it is a very exciting and transformational time at the top end of racing. I’m wondering how much of this will filter down to cruising boats? Will we ever be flying rather than sailing?

Monohulls, maybe not so much as the power requirements and relative fragility are not assets. We haven’t really seen even simple systems such as water ballast make their way into production cruising boats.

Multihulls, maybe so for greater control and dynamic stability. Certainly rudder foils are already present among the performance set, and curved daggerboards with lift are also around. When reaching or running hard I would love to know I’ve got a foil helping to keep that leeward bow up. For now ITRW I reef and slow down.
fxykty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2018, 18:00   #4
Registered User
 
AKA-None's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lake City MN
Boat: C&C 27 Mk III
Posts: 2,647
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

That nose dive looks harsh
__________________
Special knowledge can be a terrible disadvantage if it leads you too far along a path that you cannot explain anymore.
Frank Herbert 'Dune'
AKA-None is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-11-2018, 18:08   #5
cruiser

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

I want one.
Kenomac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2018, 16:31   #6
Registered User
 
SV_Harbinger's Avatar

Join Date: May 2018
Location: Naskentucket Bay
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 197
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

I would play with that like I was 3 year old.... All day every day, until I broke it, then cry because I want a new one...
SV_Harbinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2018, 16:58   #7
Registered User
 
44'cruisingcat's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,398
Images: 69
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

TBH, the American "sailing footage" looks like a CG animation.

Does anyone know how the lifting and lowering of the foils is powered?
__________________
"You CANNOT be serious!"


John McEnroe
44'cruisingcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2018, 17:13   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat View Post

Does anyone know how the lifting and lowering of the foils is powered?


I was wondering that myself, I’d assume a small engine driving a hydraulic pump.
Maybe bicyclist on the race boat?
a64pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-11-2018, 00:59   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 2,129
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

The battery operated electric hydraulic power pack and the foil arms will be stock and provided to each team (the ballasted T-foils at the end are open for development within a box rule)

Canting the foil from 70deg (foiling position) to 120deg (raised position for windward foil) should take 3 seconds.

jmh2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-11-2018, 01:02   #10
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 2,129
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

And here is an overall summary:

jmh2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-11-2018, 22:01   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 2,129
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

Team New Zealand's big call - No smaller test boat ahead of America's Cup

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sailing/n...162574&ref=rss
jmh2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-11-2018, 04:08   #12
Registered User
 
James S's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: May 2008
Location: We're technically refugees from our home in Yemen now living in Lebenon
Boat: 1978 CT48
Posts: 5,966
Images: 139
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

Nice..
__________________
James
S/V Arctic Lady
I love my boat, I can't afford not to!
James S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-11-2018, 23:01   #13
Registered User

Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: NZL - Currently Run Aground Ashore..
Boat: Sail & Power for over 35 years, experience cruising the Eastern Caribbean, Western Med, and more
Posts: 2,129
Re: Foiling Monohull-Meet the Mule!

America's Cup veteran Dean Barker describes new foiling monohull as 'a real challenge'

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-...real-challenge
jmh2002 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
hull, monohull, oil


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mule Sails irwin28 Multihull Sailboats 1 28-09-2010 04:45

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 23:31.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.