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rebel heart · 05-12-2007, 23:41

In regards to the suit: a nice turtle neck, some clean / dark jeans, and a sport coat can go a long way. You can look pretty damn good with no collar and a tie if you can tie the whole thing together.

Agility · 06-12-2007, 00:26

Sat phone is the only thing.

rebel heart · 06-12-2007, 00:40

You'd bring a satelite phone over waterproof matches?

Therapy · 06-12-2007, 11:01

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Originally Posted by rebel heart

You'd bring a satelite phone over waterproof matches?

I have not prioritized my list in writing because I don't have the boat yet but............

In one sense (I said ONE) help will be along faster with a sat phone than with a signal fire.

**GordMay** · 06-12-2007, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Therapy

...In one sense (I said ONE) help will be along faster with a sat phone than with a signal fire.

In another sense, you can’t cook food nor keep warm over a sat’ phone.

Sonosailor · 06-12-2007, 13:04

you definitely need a "none of the above" choice

Pura Vida · 06-12-2007, 18:14

I second the sat phone. Beats the stuffing out of anything but an epirb in an emergency and it beats a epirb for calling friends and family. I was going to vote for the hookah and the waterproof matches... but it's the wrong kind of hookah.

rebel heart · 07-12-2007, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Pura Vida

but it's the wrong kind of hookah.

That's unpopular thinking around here. People can make jokes (or be serious, sadly) about drinking alcohol and boating, but if you mention pot everyone knee jerks and turns into a cop.

Even firearms. You'll find support on here for people who are more than willing to illegally smuggle high powered weapons into a country for their "protection", but light up a j on a beach somewhere and you're branded a criminal.

I haven't smoked pot in years, and would never do it (or alcohol) on an underway (or could be underway) vessel, but the attitudes I've encountered on the water is really back asswards. Especially when put in the context of sailing, which is notorious for consuming alcohol underway (and is a leading cause of maritime fatalities). Stone throwing in a glass house, etc.

/end of rant/

rebel heart · 07-12-2007, 13:22

And in case that post ends up getting banned / deleted because I'm discussing something "illegal", I'd like to point out that plenty of illegal content (drinking and boating, as one obvious example) happens on here and no eyebrows are raised.

Example: "Get me another beer!"

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ting-9443.html

TaoJones · 07-12-2007, 13:59

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Originally Posted by rebel heart

That's unpopular thinking around here. People can make jokes (or be serious, sadly) about drinking alcohol and boating, but if you mention pot everyone knee jerks and turns into a cop.

Even firearms. You'll find support on here for people who are more than willing to illegally smuggle high powered weapons into a country for their "protection", but light up a j on a beach somewhere and you're branded a criminal.

I haven't smoked pot in years, and would never do it (or alcohol) on an underway (or could be underway) vessel, but the attitudes I've encountered on the water is really back asswards. Especially when put in the context of sailing, which is notorious for consuming alcohol underway (and is a leading cause of maritime fatalities). Stone throwing in a glass house, etc.

/end of rant/

I would consider what you've written an astute observation, rebel heart, not a rant. I, too, am mystified by the close bond between boating and the consumption of alcohol.

I raised the question here, awhile back:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...html#post98634

And just to save everyone the trouble of pulling that up, here's the pertinent part:

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And perhaps this belongs in another thread, but I've long wondered what is the reason boaters in particular are so drawn to the consumption of alcohol? Years ago I dropped out of the whole yacht club/club cruise/Wednesday afternoon regatta thing, because all that ever happened was that at the end, everyone stood around and drank (mostly beer) and reprised the meaningless event. Everything seemed designed to culminate in the social gathering at the end, and the social gatherings, to me, were only excuses to drink, and it very quickly lost its charm.

I would also posit that a majority of boating accidents that involve casual or infrequent sailors/powerboaters have the consumption of alcohol as the unifying characteristic. And I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that alcohol is a factor, more often than not, in accidents involving professional mariners (see, for example, Joseph Hazelwood and Exxon Valdez).

It's worth remembering, though, that when it comes to illegal drugs aboard, you're risking the seizure of your vessel, not just your freedom and big legal expenses, if you get busted with them on your boat. Not at all worth it, IMO.

Still, rebel heart makes a valid point. I hope it's allowed to stand.

TaoJones

rebel heart · 07-12-2007, 14:45

Tao - Thanks for the nice words. I debated about posting it because I knew I stir up a hornet's nest.

Again, I would never operate a vessel while impaired by anything. Because of the insane amount of hell the police and coast guard can rain down on me, I keep anything even remotely "illegal" off my vessel, including expired pain killers for wisdom teeth that got pulled a few years ago.

I suppose I don't know what I'm arguing really, except that there seems to be a bit of hypocrisy out there. Of course hypocrisy is everywhere (I've got plenty myself I'm sure), but this particular issue always seems so much more obtuse to me, especially when the people with such strong anti-pot attitudes often can be seen in the cockpit nursing a beer.

Pura Vida · 07-12-2007, 16:06

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Originally Posted by rebel heart

That's unpopular thinking around here. People can make jokes (or be serious, sadly) about drinking alcohol and boating, but if you mention pot everyone knee jerks and turns into a cop./end of rant/

Thanks for the heads up. I've been away for a few months. But I have been on the board for a while and guess that most of the admins and moderators have an idea about my humor and, often, lack there of. (Or they have not been offended enough to notice me. So far no PMs.)

Some may not appreciate my comment and to those I apologize for any undue stress. Drug and alcohol treatment are central to my current academic work so I may have some perspectives on the issue that are not commonly held. I'll hang on to those.

So how do you use matches on a boat? I have a long lighter for the grill and seacook but...