Inboard engines and a changing world

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by seandepagnier

Would love to see it. You certainly should be punished for consuming fossil fuels for heating. So many other ways to deal with this problem without causing emissions.

I propose a $10 tax per gallon as a starting point increasing by $1 per year. The tax generated would divide evenly by the citizens twice a year like a stimulus payment, so average consumption would actually have no tax which is less fuel tax than we have now. only people with above average consumption would pay more than they do now as they surely should.

Ok so how would you propose i heat my defender ? I dont plug in especially when sailing or anchored out. I sail year round well above the 45th parallel in the north pacific .

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ok so how would you propose i heat my defender ? I dont plug in especially when sailing or anchored out. I sail year round well above the 45th parallel in the north pacific .

What? Don't you have room for a pot belly stove in there? I have 2 on mine!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Don C L

What? Don't you have room for a pot belly stove in there? I have 2 on mine!

Sorry just one pot belly and its not good for heating . Sure empties the fridge though.

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by Island Time O25

As far as taxing electric vehicle use to replace lost fuel taxes the States are pushing taxing by miles driven. Will probably be a part of the annual inspection or some such.

In the USA in particular, I suspect that subsidies to the petrochermical industry exceeds the taxes raised.
One BIG problem with the push for electrification is that the vast proportion of PV cells and panels are produced in China by forced labour and dirty (coal) energy.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

In the USA in particular, I suspect that subsidies to the petrochermical industry exceeds the taxes raised.
One BIG problem with the push for electrification is that the vast proportion of PV cells and panels are produced in China by forced labour and dirty (coal) energy.

Actually no the ev and "green energy" actually have higher subsidies per year .

For example if I purchase an electric vehicle new or used . The first 45k if new or 35k if used in my state (Washington state) it is exempt from sales tax . ( currently 10.0% in my area) a subsidy which is not counted .
It has got me thinking of purchasing a three wheel 2 passenger ev .
The https://www.arcimoto.com/
Fun utility vehicle

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by Island Time O25

As far as taxing electric vehicle use to replace lost fuel taxes the States are pushing taxing by miles driven. Will probably be a part of the annual inspection or some such.

They already do this for my wife’s hybrid car, right there on the fees table

[Sailmonkey]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Ok so how would you propose i heat my defender ? I dont plug in especially when sailing or anchored out. I sail year round well above the 45th parallel in the north pacific .

He’s going to say you should be burning scavenged pine cones in a salvaged propane tank stove.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Sailmonkey

He’s going to say you should be burning scavenged pine cones in a salvaged propane tank stove.

His comment was most likely satirical but does raise a few questions .
I have heated with wood , coal, propane, alcohol ,and now diesel. Same fuel for my iron wind. Best thing i ever did . 30 gallons in 15 minutes = 2 years of furnace heating.
One winter i actually heated with my multi fuel stove burning unleaded supreme gasoline.
Unless i am in a marina and can run my electric heat i dont run heat when sleeping . Safer for me .

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by newhaul

His comment was most likely satirical but does raise a few questions .
I have heated with wood , coal, propane, alcohol ,and now diesel. Same fuel for my iron wind. Best thing i ever did . 30 gallons in 15 minutes = 2 years of furnace heating.
One winter i actually heated with my multi fuel stove burning unleaded supreme gasoline.
Unless i am in a marina and can run my electric heat i dont run heat when sleeping . Safer for me .

Can you thread drift a little bit to explain your gasoline heating? Very interested in this.

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually more like 70 years but here in port Angeles Washington they still have hitching rings in front of the courthouse and people still use them . But i do agree with you .
My biggest issue is that my diesel furnace won't run on bio diesel It requires actual diesel or kerosene. ( i have tried it )

Replace the burner, maybe just the jet ?

[skenn_ie]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually no the ev and "green energy" actually have higher subsidies per year .

Taxes on hydrocarbons v subsidies to those corporations. Here, (commercial) marine diesel is about $2.60/gallon, leisure and road diesel, about twice that. Petrol is a bit more.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Can you thread drift a little bit to explain your gasoline heating? Very interested in this.

2 burner stove that can burn gasoline or Coleman stove fuel ran a burner on medium low with a big heavy aluminum pressure cooker turned upside down to radiate the heat from the stove burner.
https://www.rei.com/product/883480/c...2-burner-stove

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

Taxes on hydrocarbons v subsidies to those corporations. Here, (commercial) marine diesel is about $2.60/gallon, leisure and road diesel, about twice that. Petrol is a bit more.

Road diesel here is about 3.25 usd and .55 of that is road use tax which farm/ marine diesel doesn't pay . But for some reason the marine diesel is only about .25 lower .

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by skenn_ie

Replace the burner, maybe just the jet ?

Not changeable on these maranized bunk heaters

https://www.esparparts.com/

I run a Chinese knockoff of this

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by newhaul

2 burner stove that can burn gasoline or Coleman stove fuel ran a burner on medium low with a big heavy aluminum pressure cooker turned upside down to radiate the heat from the stove burner.
https://www.rei.com/product/883480/c...2-burner-stove

Oh, ok. Thanks.

I was hoping it was a bigger setup for space heating when I read your post before.