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**JPA Cate** · 26-11-2017, 11:00

Sorry to read this.

What a horrible situation for Elizabeth Dabrowna. I sure do hope she's paid attention to how he did things on the boat.....

Ann

GTom · 26-11-2017, 11:40

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Originally Posted by barnakiel

There should be at least a dsc vhf too. From a Bav 44 mast this will alert any boats within 24+ miles radius.

I can't remember last time I have seen a boat without an epirb too. If they do not have one ... well. And if the sat phone stopped respondinng it likely just needs a charge.

Look here:

https://www.worldcruising.com/arc/eventfleetviewer.aspx

Looks like some 50 strong fleet coming into (this ?) area.

She has big chances of getting found and rescued soon, imho.

b.

I am less worried about the boat, much more about the drifting man. I am afraid the fleet is way too far from him, the nearest boat is 1000miles/couple of days away. It's up to the nearby SAR/local traffic to save him. At least, neither the prevailing current nor the wind pushes him away from land.

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Originally Posted by JPA Cate

Sorry to read this.

What a horrible situation for Elizabeth Dabrowna. I sure do hope she's paid attention to how he did things on the boat.....

Ann

The only thing she has to do is to keep pressing the red button on the VHF...

Navicula · 26-11-2017, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Polux

The old skipper just went overboard and they were just beginning with more 4 years ahead. He would finish is circumnavigation with 78 years.

Maybe there are 78 years guys that remain fit enough to sail his 44ft alone across Oceans (the wife cannot sail the boat) but as a rule I would say that is not the case for the vast majority.

Off course, you can dream with that, or even take stupid risks to you and the other doing that but I don't think it is reasonable.

I can appreciate your view......I will stick to mine,thankyou

alansmith · 26-11-2017, 14:39

How long before an old guy goes into hypothermia? Even floating on a life ring most of the body is immersed. I am assuming that he is in regular clothing with foulies. Remember a couple of years ago when the pro football players flipped the boat off of florida. Most of them perished...maybe one was still clinging to the flipped hull. Now imagine the age and conditioning of top of the line athletes versus this old gentleman.

barnakiel · 26-11-2017, 14:57

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Originally Posted by GTom

I am afraid the fleet is way too far from him, the nearest boat is 1000miles/couple of days away.

(...)

Correct me if I am wrong.

"...Position at time of missing N 13°14'60'' W 54°58...". (post)

ARC+ fleet spreads now from 12 to 15N and from 40 to 54d20m West. (viewer)

So the way I see it, they coincide. How much, will depend on whether the Bav is hove-to or continuing on.

I cannot see any problem the family talk to the ARC rally organizers and ask the boats to pay special attention. Actually those who have sat onboard already do as SAR institutions tend to contact ships in area.

b.

belizesailor · 26-11-2017, 15:01

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Originally Posted by alansmith

How long before an old guy goes into hypothermia? Even floating on a life ring most of the body is immersed. I am assuming that he is in regular clothing with foulies. Remember a couple of years ago when the pro football players flipped the boat off of florida. Most of them perished...maybe one was still clinging to the flipped hull. Now imagine the age and conditioning of top of the line athletes versus this old gentleman.

Took a small built female diver with no wet suit about 48 hours to die of hypothermia a few years ago in Belize. Surface temps were probably around 80F...cooler air after sunset and no solar heating.

Per earlier post he went MOB on the 21st...not good.

GTom · 26-11-2017, 15:01

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Originally Posted by alansmith

How long before an old guy goes into hypothermia? Even floating on a life ring most of the body is immersed. I am assuming that he is in regular clothing with foulies. Remember a couple of years ago when the pro football players flipped the boat off of florida. Most of them perished...maybe one was still clinging to the flipped hull. Now imagine the age and conditioning of top of the line athletes versus this old gentleman.

Sea temperature is not too bad, ~28°C/83°F, that might buy some time, depending how he's built.

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Originally Posted by barnakiel

ARC+ fleet spreads now from 12 to 15N and from 40 to 54d20m West. (viewer)

So the way I see it, they coincide. How much, will depend on whether the Bav is hove-to or continuing on.

I cannot see any problem the family talk to the ARC rally organizers and ask the boats to pay special attention. Actually those who have sat onboard already do as SAR institutions tend to contact ships in area.

b.

You are right, I selected the wrong course (GC->Sta Lucia).

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Originally Posted by belizesailor

Per earlier post he went MOB on the 21st...not good.

Could you please share a link? The facebook post says "more than 24 hours before - November 25 at 2:29pm" How much more she didn't specify.

danielamartindm · 26-11-2017, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Polux

I hope they are well. Doing 4 year circumnavigation at the age of 74 is that reasonable?

We all have to die somewhere and some time. How reasonable is that?

Pelagic · 26-11-2017, 15:11

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Originally Posted by GTom

I am less worried about the boat, much more about the drifting man. I am afraid the fleet is way too far from him, the nearest boat is 1000miles/couple of days away. It's up to the nearby SAR/local traffic to save him. At least, neither the prevailing current nor the wind pushes him away from land.

Even if after two days to arrive......Would not the ARC fleet consider this a priority emergency and coordinate a detailed sweeping search of the area?

GTom · 26-11-2017, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Pelagic

Even if after two days to arrive......Would not the ARC fleet consider this a priority emergency and coordinate a detailed sweeping search of the area?

Should be OK to find a 44' sailing boat but a danbuoy is very hard to find.