Motor sailor definition.

[Montanan]

It appears to be a MacGregor 26 version M. with models designed for sailing and motor-sailing. It has a fractional sloop rig, a transom-hung rudder and a centerboard or daggerboard keel, depending on the model, with flooding water ballast. The ballast is drained for easy trailerable, road transport.

About 5,000 MacGregor 26 were made between 1986 and 2003 making it the most popular day cruiser in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHneDA6vwm8

[markpierce]

Not a motorsailer, but a motor boat, sail-assisted. The sails can provide a half-knot if wind is from the beam.

[DMF Sailing]

Originally Posted by Montanan

It appears to be a MacGregor 26 version M. with models designed for sailing and motor-sailing. It has a fractional sloop rig, a transom-hung rudder and a centerboard or daggerboard keel, depending on the model, with flooding water ballast. The ballast is drained for easy trailerable, road transport.

About 5,000 MacGregor 26 were made between 1986 and 2003 making it the most popular day cruiser in the world.

Thank you for posting this video! I knew what the 26M was, but I'd never seen one sail like that.

The way she handled the gale is impressive, but what really struck me was how she seemed to be boiling along under full sail in a breeze.

It's also cool how you blow your ballast, like a submarine, when it's time to be a speedboat.

Versatile little thing.

[john manning]

I own 2 yachts I think of as motor sailors.

One is a Prout Escale catamaran. Heavily built solid fiberglass hull. It can motor at 7.5kts, range 1400 miles. Under sail it achieves 7 - 8 kts but needs 20kts wind to get going and reefing begins at 30kts. So motoring or sailing will get you there at the same speed.

The second is an Athol Burns 50ft motor sailor. Heavy displacement timber yacht. It can motor at 7 - 8 kts, range 2000 miles. It sails at 6 - 8kts and needs at least 20kts to get moving. Reefing begins at 30kts. So motoring or sailing will get you there at the same speed.

Another characteristic common to both these yachts is that combining engine and sails firstly allows you to point more directly toward your destination and secondly significantly reduces fuel consumption, compared to engine alone.

[Wolfgang.Schau]

Originally Posted by Lucky Luke 1

Forgive me if its a silly question.
What defines a motor sailor from a sail boat? Seems most sail boats have a motor..

A sailboat has an auxiliary motor, but its main power comes from the sails. A motor sailor has an auxiliary sail, but is main power comes from the engine. Usually they cannot point very high, about 60 degrees. It is very hard to tack against the wind under sail. The advantage of the sail on a motor sailor is to stabilize the boat and yes, down wind you can save some fuel.

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang.Schau

A sailboat has an auxiliary motor, but its main power comes from the sails. A motor sailor has an auxiliary sail, but is main power comes from the engine. Usually they cannot point very high, about 60 degrees. It is very hard to tack against the wind under sail. The advantage of the sail on a motor sailor is to stabilize the boat and yes, down wind you can save some fuel.

There's no law against a motorsailer having also a good sailing performance. If you know of such a rule please inform

[MVDarlin]

It has a bigger engine and different hull design. It does both but neither well.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by MVDarlin

It has a bigger engine and different hull design. It does both but neither well.

What about in combination...
...ie "Motorsailing"

[deblen]

Another pilothouse motorsailer.


motorsailor-the person operating a vessel using the motor & sails together.


motorsailer/aux. sailboat-a vessel that has motor(s) & sail(s).


pilothouse motorsailer-a type of vessel with motor(s) & sail(s) designed to operate under sail and motor simultaneously most of the time.It is equipped with a solid pilothouse with inside steering & engine controls.They often have exterior steering & controls.


Len

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoAp4oa4aMo

[Rennsail]

Originally Posted by Rotten Ricky

Can anyone tell me why the rig is so short on the motor-sailors I have seen?

I would have thought that with a hull of fairly heavy displacement giving great stablity, that the motor sailor could have a really tall rig. This would give greater ability to sail without the motor, or boost the forward movement with the motor running. I find this puzzling!

Cheers, RR.

Relative mast height coupled with a pilot house are my preferred visual shortcuts to determining if I am looking at a motor sailor or just a pilot house sailboat. Boat owners' apparently don't like it when you board announced and head down to the engine room.

[Rennsail]

Originally Posted by chrisr

our 12m catamaran has 110hp. does this make us a motor sailor ??

cheers,

Intrigued. Can you share more? So is that twin 55 hp diesels or 55 hp outboards?



For me, if I want to spend time with the wife on the boat (also known as "staying married") I'll be ditching the monohull and acquiring a 40'+ catamaran. Having cat that could motor at 10+ knots for at least 6 hours without adding a fuel bladder or over-revving the engine for hours on end is appealing to me.

[gillesgiv]

I have a Hunter 456 center cockpit with a 10,000 pounds keel at 6 feet. Total weight 33,000 pounds. Much more than in the brochure. It is very powerful and heavy. Cruises at 8.3 knots woth motor and same with sails. (1000 sq feet sail plan). Full enclosure. I consider that boat a motor sailer.

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by Rennsail

Intrigued. Can you share more? So is that twin 55 hp diesels or 55 hp outboards?


For me, if I want to spend time with the wife on the boat (also known as "staying married") I'll be ditching the monohull and acquiring a 40'+ catamaran. Having cat that could motor at 10+ knots for at least 6 hours without adding a fuel bladder or over-revving the engine for hours on end is appealing to me.

we have a pair of yanmar 4JH2TE (ie turbo) diesels. rated @ 55hp each - although the girls might have let a few ponies escape over the years...

too big for the boat really but it is nice to have the power when needed.

combined with 750L fuel capacity, we can motor @ 6k for 10 days or 9k for 3 days (?)

btw, i know some folk like them but personally i would NEVER EVER have petrol outboards on anything except the dink !

cheers,

[DMF Sailing]

Here's a manufacturer of sailing yachts and "motor sailers" with their specs... does this help?

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by deblen

Another pilothouse motorsailer.


motorsailor-the person operating a vessel using the motor & sails together.


motorsailer/aux. sailboat-a vessel that has motor(s) & sail(s).


pilothouse motorsailer-a type of vessel with motor(s) & sail(s) designed to operate under sail and motor simultaneously most of the time.It is equipped with a solid pilothouse with inside steering & engine controls.They often have exterior steering & controls.


Len

Len, I am the owner of a Fisher 32 so obviously appreciate the design, but that catfisher sure is one ugly member of the family.