Religious Commercial or Political Personal Signal Flags at Marina slip

[stubones99]

I am offended about someone banning pirate flags... That's just too far!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Go Wildcats

Looking the other way always leads forward.

Funny.. My experience is it always leads backwards..
Thats why so many cities have no go areas or at the least where the average citizen fears to tread after dark.
Things don't go away or improve, the virus just spreads.
Your just another pussy to be walked over.

[friz]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

I don’t believe it’s illegal in the states.
And that nasty symbol was taken from India if memory serves me correctly.

I recall it is backwards.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

I don’t believe it’s illegal in the states.
And that nasty symbol was taken from India if memory serves me correctly.

Incorrectly.


The Indian symbol is different.


Ask any 100 random Westerners about the symbol, how many will assign it to ancient India. C'mon.



And when the swastika appears in a Western society today (aside from acedemic circles which we are not talking about now), it is taken, by right wing activists, from Nazi Germany.


If it is not illegal in the US, then US is a hell of a place and tells me a lot about its dwellers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E..._of_Nazi_flags



b.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by svmargi

I take great pleasure in flying my TRUMP/2020 flag and enjoy robust and thorough discussions regarding my support of his agenda with those fellow members of my yacht club with differing views. I have been boating for 60 years and have never known true mariners to shy away from forthright discourse while maintaining respectful and courteous demeanor.

Our boats are reflections of who we are and we should all be able to respect each others whole beings.

It is difficult to not respect when you can't breathe.

barnakiel

[gulfislandfred]

I would suggest a size limit. Big enough to be seen from the road implies a pretty big banner. Too big, perhaps? With a contentious election year ahead, things could get heated.



If everyone is free to express their view, in a size similar to a yacht club burgee or the usual flag flown from the stern, it might be a more or less civilized discourse.


Might want to limit the number of banners, too. Some will look for loopholes, and over step

[valhalla360]

I'm still waiting to hear what exactly are the offensive flags.

If someone is flying the Swiss flag and people are offended that it has a Christian symbol on it that's wildly different from someone flying the 3rd Reich's flag.

[barnakiel]

Yep.


I think they are so few the flags that should not be.


And then there are so many reasons for banners - you know races, holidays, etc.


And some symbols are so omnipresent in most of Western culture.


Think of the Maltese Cross. OK RELIGIOUS. But then again so common in SAR ships (here, in Europe).


One very bad thing with big flags and banners is if you live onboard then on any windy night you get no sleep - unless you want to walk say 100 boats and drop down their banners.


Etc.


A challenge, to say the least. Both the politics and the pragmatics.


Cheers,
b.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by svmargi

I take great pleasure in flying my TRUMP/2020 flag and enjoy robust and thorough discussions regarding my support of his agenda with those fellow members of my yacht club with differing views. I have been boating for 60 years and have never known true mariners to shy away from forthright discourse while maintaining respectful and courteous demeanor.

Our boats are reflections of who we are and we should all be able to respect each others whole beings.

Most observers agree that the current political divide in the US is deep and bitter, and understanding or rational discourse between the two sides is nearly impossible.

It seems funny that apparently no-one has considered whether being in each other's face 24/7 with their political declarations and signage, even in spaces dedicated to a shared common interest that unites the members (like, oh, a yacht club?), is maybe part of the problem.

[Captn_Black]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Most observers agree that the current political divide in the US is deep and bitter, and understanding or rational discourse between the two sides is nearly impossible.

It seems funny that apparently no-one has considered whether being in each other's face 24/7 with their political declarations and signage, even in spaces where there should be a shared common interest that unites the members (like, oh, a yacht club?), is maybe part of the problem.

Yes, and in that kind of climate is it really acceptable to tell someone not to be offended when it is clear that the person's intention is to offend those that disagree with them? Intent is 9 10ths of the law, after all

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Most observers agree that the current political divide in the US is deep and bitter, and understanding or rational discourse between the two sides is nearly impossible.

It seems funny that apparently no-one has considered whether being in each other's face 24/7 with their political declarations and signage, even in spaces dedicated to a shared common interest that unites the members (like, oh, a yacht club?), is maybe part of the problem.

[tekdiver]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

If on public waters can you make a rule that violates the rights of the public as defined by the government? It seems to me that a club cannot make a rule that supersedes constitutional protections unless the property is 100% private owned including the waterway. I wonder if this has already been decided in the courts?

I'm seeing more and more people feel their rights exceed the rights of others!
Many Need to read the Bill of rights they apply to all citizens of the USA. I throw that in there is a group that thinks Illegals have our rights.
Don't be so thin skinned as to take offense of Political or religious views.

[tekdiver]

Originally Posted by Captn_Black

Yes, and in that kind of climate is it really acceptable to tell someone not to be offended when it is clear that the person's intention is to offend those that disagree with them? Intent is 9 10ths of the law, after all

No the Constitution is the law. This is a Constitutional Republic
. still.

[Captn_Black]

Originally Posted by tekdiver

No the Constitution is the law. This is a Constitutional Republic
. still.

I wasn't really suggesting a legal issue there, hence the winky face. It was more of an argument against not being offended - if someone does something to try offend me, I will be upset that they tried to offend me, regardless of whether I found the action itself offensive or not.

[PTeinert02]

The phrase, "intent is nine tenths of the law" is always right when everyone agrees with the intent and always wrong when everyone disagrees with it.