Religious Commercial or Political Personal Signal Flags at Marina slip

[Captn_Black]

As a non US citizen I find this whole "but mah rights" thing a bit silly. I prefer common decency over legal rights.

[Captn_Black]

Also, I refer back to my point a few pages ago that a house/owners flag needs to be a unique design. You can't (not legally, but by etiquette and tradition) just raise any flag on the port burgee halyard and call it a house flag.

[exMaggieDrum]

Some of you must like to carry your politics or whatever with you wherever you go. Myself, (I am holier than thou), like to go to the marina or the anchorage or wherever to escape the political crap that is has taken over our country and the world. I don't care what any particular person believes or doesn't believe but to insist on putting up a big Obama or Trump or whoever banner on the boat next to mine, just brings this crap down to the docks and sometimes on the water and makes it a little (lot) less enjoyable.



Some people seem to enjoy trying to make other people either uncomfortable or to advertise for others who feel the same way they do to come on over for safety in numbers. Why people want to insist on putting their thumbs in other people's eyes to make a point is beyond me.

[timb7734]

Arguing over this is purely ridiculous.

Flag etiquette would not include any of these flags.

[S/V Adeline]

Originally Posted by thinwater

Have you seen a Confederate flag flown? Was the intent historic or hateful (perhaps veiled)?

I have never seen an actual Confederate Flag flown, I have seen many Confederate Navy Jacks flown, I don't believe I have ever met anyone who flew it out of hatred or anger. In the war, only 1 regiment of ground forces actually carried the Navy Jack in battle, but hollywood latched on to it because it looks better so history be damned!
Truth of the matter, the American Civil War was not about slavery. Every southern state had been threatened to secede from the Union for roughly 50 years due to unfair taxes and representation. President Lincoln declared slavery abolished 13 months AFTER the war began, that was the point slavery became an issue of the *war*. At that point in time, the South was winning and history shows that the decision to make *human rights* the face of the war cause was a brilliant call for the first Republican president. (Wanting to catch a show at the Ford Theater, not so much)
Any true student of history would never fly the Navy Jack out of hatred or racism, as it is a symbol that came from economic and cultural oppression. The industrial culture areas (north) held greater representation than the agricultural areas (south) and voted to heavily tax them.
Not much has changed to date.

[icemate]

If it's not a Private Yacht Club, tell those wimps who are hurt by someone choice of a flag to get a life or relocate. Get along or get going.

[surf_km55]

11 pages of discourse over what? Flags and their messages?
The human race is doomed.

[Averybill]

Well my main flag will be the Stars and Stripes. Any other flag will be below her. I will confess my Florida State University burgee gets a lot of respectful reaction from some fellow boaters. The key is respect...politics should be in the voting booth. I am 68 years old and have voted since I was 18, never once have I been influenced by a sign, banner, flag or political advertisement.

[svmargi]

Originally Posted by Captn_Black

Yes, and in that kind of climate is it really acceptable to tell someone not to be offended when it is clear that the person's intention is to offend those that disagree with them? Intent is 9 10ths of the law, after all

One of the most offensive actions is to project your own motives to those of others.

[Captn_Black]

Originally Posted by surf_km55

11 pages of discourse over what? Flags and their messages?
The human race is doomed.

Yea :P
Although my points were based on the incorrect nautical use of them. Some of us still take flags seriously - in England flying an ensign which you don't have permission to use is still a crime. As is flying a Union Jack at sea - if you are English and flying a flag on your burgee halyard to denote your nationality, it should be a St Georges Cross, or the flag of your county. The French take these matters equally seriously, if not more so.

[Captn_Black]

Originally Posted by svmargi

One of the most offensive actions is to project your own motives to those of others.

What makes you think I was doing so? And what are your motivations for being offended by my statement? You are instantly assuming that I make the assumption that someone is trying to offend me when they are not. But my statement merely stated that if they were trying to offended me I would find that offensive.

[NorthernMac]

Originally Posted by wingssail

Yes, I am sure you are right, none. Obviously there is no confusion about whether or not the person with one flying at his spreader is a real pirate.

But it IS a symbol of a very serious crime, meant in the old days to instill terror in the hearts of sailors who sighted it flying on an oncoming boat.

So I still ask, why does someone think that is it cool, What is cool about it?

Mostly people I have asked about it think it is funny. What is funny about flying a symbol which represents terrorist criminal activity?

Nobody has answered this for me.

Do you have the same feelings about captain Morgan run, kids watching Peter Pan, etc?

Real and bad pirates don’t look anything like cartoon pirates, and have about as much in common IMHO

Originally Posted by Captn_Black

As a non US citizen I find this whole "but mah rights" thing a bit silly. I prefer common decency over legal rights.

I’ve had this talk with folks who never had the rights US citizens have, it’s like trying to explain a sunset to a blind person, or a deaf person trying to understand Mozart by looking at sheet music.

[Cynara]

The bad news is there are people

[Captn_Black]

Originally Posted by NorthernMac

I’ve had this talk with folks who never had the rights US citizens have, it’s like trying to explain a sunset to a blind person, or a deaf person trying to understand Mozart by looking at sheet music.

Is it though? Because we have exactly the same rights in the EU that you have, (aside from the 2nd amendment) we just don't bang on about them all the time as if it were religion rather than law. You do realise that your constitution is based on UK Common Law?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Captn_Black

Is it though? Because we have exactly the same rights in the EU that you have, (aside from the 2nd amendment) we just don't bang on about them all the time as if it were religion rather than law. You do realise that your constitution is based on UK Common Law?

The repression of these rights is beginning in the EU.. thats why we want out.
Freedom of speech..
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ion-hate-crime