Sailboat washes ashore on Pensacola Beach

[lestersails]

Originally Posted by Shaneesprit

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Also if you threw the Anchor overboard, highly likely the Anchor would grab hold of something eventually.

Can people help me with this? Wouldn't you need a hell of a snubber? The anchor would be likeliest to dig in when you are getting close to a shore. With surf. With momentum. I would picture that anchor grabbing and there being a hell of sudden force on that rode. Like, yank a cleat out of the deck force.
Am I wrong about this?

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by lestersails

Can people help me with this? Wouldn't you need a hell of a snubber? The anchor would be likeliest to dig in when you are getting close to a shore. With surf. With momentum. I would picture that anchor grabbing and there being a hell of sudden force on that rode. Like, yank a cleat out of the deck force.
Am I wrong about this?

Doubt it. If the anchor snagged a rock or coral head maybe, but as long as the cleat or bollard are stout it should be fine. Over sand and mud the anchor will likely be skipping and dragging before the scope is right to dig in fully.
Main problem would be to let the chain out slowly. Don’t let it run free because 300 ft or so of chain spinning out is heavy and has a lot of momentum. It’ll do some damage when it stops most likely.

[Knotical]

Originally Posted by Shaneesprit

So would you not tie off what’s left for the jib / Genoa, if it’s windy, I would sail back with a bedsheet before I considered getting off. A lost Genoa is not even worthy of a PAN PAN

Preaching to the choir, aren’t we?

[Garrettw]

Originally Posted by lestersails

Can people help me with this? Wouldn't you need a hell of a snubber? The anchor would be likeliest to dig in when you are getting close to a shore. With surf. With momentum. I would picture that anchor grabbing and there being a hell of sudden force on that rode. Like, yank a cleat out of the deck force.
Am I wrong about this?

It’s going to be a 1:1 scope at the beginning. Not the best for a solid grab.

[lestersails]

Originally Posted by Garrettw

It’s going to be a 1:1 scope at the beginning. Not the best for a solid grab.

Thanks to you and Don CL - makes sense.

[JPA Cate]

Anchored in coral rubble bottom in New Caledonia one time, in a place we'd been a number of times.... went to have a look around before going to bed, and it all looked different. We had come loose, drifted with the breeze driving us, across the deep water and eventually had stopped, roughly 2 or 3:1 on the other side. The stop was so gentle we didn't even notice. The point is that it was not a big jerk, although there was a snubber on, the boat kept on, and having to lift the chain catenary was enough to stop her so gently the snubber didn't even squeak a tiny bit. Whatever the bottom was on that side, she may have just slowly dug in to the red soil. It being night time, and not wanting to stay on the lee shore, we simply got under way, no unplanned night dive.

A neighbor in the anchorage saw it all happen, and turned on his anchor light so we could find our way back and re-anchor.... Thanks, again, Troopship!

Had a friend in the Golfo de California, the Sea of Cortez, who had had his windlass let out all his chain at sea. Did not damage the windlass, but it didn't have enough grunt to haul all 300 ft. back aboard by itself. They had to "help" it, using rolling hitches, and using the primaries, haul it all aboard, then they could feed it down into the chain locker. Took them a long, scary time to do it. Sorry, I don't remember the name of the boat. It was a long time ago...and they got through it.

Apologies for the digression.

As to the boat on the beach in Pensacola, maybe they'll be able to get it off at springs....
I hope so. It looks good enough to try to salvage.

Ann

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Shaneesprit

We just need to get better at claiming these “free” boats as salvage, before they run aground.
Once it’s abandoned at sea it’s yours if you attach a line to it.

I don't believe that salvage law works like that. IIRC, if you were to simply tow in a drifting and abandoned vessel it would go to a "receiver of wrecks" and then an admiralty court would evaluate the amount of effort and risk that you had in the recovery and award you accordingly. This could in extreme cases be the whole value of the vessel, but likely much less, possibly as little as compensation for fuel expended and loss of income due to the time spent.

The idea of "free boats" is flawed.

Jim

[Don C L]

Yes. Many years ago I had my boat anchored for a short time off the beach at Santa Barbara. Some gentlemen were under the impression that when a boat washes up on the beach it is "free salvage." So being very creative they elected one of their clan to go out onto the wharf, which was dilapidated at the time, and swim out to the anchored boats, cut or detach their anchor rodes and wait ashore for the treasure to come to them.

The first boat to hit the beach was cleaned out. Mine being second, and not arriving at the beach until sunrise, was spared a bit. The harbor patrol called me and said, "get down here, your boat's on the beach!" Sure enough when I arrived she was flopping in the shallows. Two gentlemen approached and asked if I wanted a hand and then they asked how much I'd pay them. I declined.

The harbor patrol did me a big favor that morning. They brought the bigger boat out, tossed me a line and gunned it. She was floating enough that she just lept off the beach! (24 foot boat) Good thing I beefed up the backing on the bow cleat.

Later I realized the boat had been broken into and some things taken. I realized it was the two men I saw on the beach who were coming back to get a second load.

Not far from the beach, under a bridge, I found most of my stuff. So, no, a boat on the beach is also not free salvage.

[GordMay]

"Ghost Ship' Washes Ashore on Florida Beach One Week After It Was Abandoned At Sea amid Storms"
➥ https://people.com/ghost-ship-washes...storms-8672286

Short Video ➥ https://youtu.be/Cv6Y2LSZguI

[Leroy Radford]

Does anyone know what kind of boat this is?

[Statistical]

Originally Posted by Leroy Radford

Does anyone know what kind of boat this is?

Morgan 45. A solid moderate displacement sloop. She could handle a lot more than this squall even ocean crossing.

[LordoftheReach]

Anyone who says "Bro just jumped in the water" should not be sailing.

[Jim Cate]

another take on the situation:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/ghost-ship...124856131.html

Surprisingly cogent for mainstream news.

Jim

[Statistical]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

another take on the situation:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/ghost-ship...124856131.html

Surprisingly cogent for mainstream news.

Jim

JFC he is considering scrapping the boat and buying another one for $80k?

[5BTM]

“We were just going to explore the world,” Barlow said of his wife and 9-year-old son. “We’re normal people. We have normal finances, very, very basic. And this is the only way I could take my son and show him there’s a whole world out there, beyond what’s in America. It’s the only way to do this realistically until this happened.”

Another way to show the world out there would be to get a job at a major airline and fly anywhere essentially for free.

Why is those idiots must involve children and animals in their " dreams".

"Mosquito Coast" should be on a compulsory reading list.