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Old 22-01-2009, 16:58   #16
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The Venezia 42 is constructed of foam-cored fiberglass, so theoretically it's unsinkable even if both hulls are holed. This might explain why it was still floating on its lines, but makes it even more confusing why the crew would want to abandon ship.
I was wondering if it was foam-cored as I was watching it, it just doesn't make sense.
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Old 22-01-2009, 22:32   #17
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That depends on the purpose

A holed, fully-insured, but still mortgaged boat might be worth more as a total loss than as a repairable to its owners... but that's purely speculation. There may be more to the story than is ever going to be reported online; we will just have to trust the owners and the freighter were acting with the best of intentions.
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Old 23-01-2009, 00:14   #18
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The Venezia 42 is constructed of foam-cored fiberglass, so theoretically it's unsinkable even if both hulls are holed. This might explain why it was still floating on its lines, but makes it even more confusing why the crew would want to abandon ship.
If it was taking on enough water to make them abandon it, you'd expect it would be floating a fair way below it's lines. And for a ship to ram it (assuming it was deliberate) with two people still on board, looks more like attempted murder than part of a rescue???
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Old 23-01-2009, 03:27   #19
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These boats may be foam cored But they will sink to around the top deck if holed-and if people were onboard why not wait until there off before its rammed? something seems fishie here
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Old 23-01-2009, 04:22   #20
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Fishy? At least contrived...

Even if they determined to request the crew to "run down the Cat" with the guise of it being a potential hazard, and the ship Captain agreed, wouldn't you get into a dinghy or life raft and get far enough away so that you don't get creamed physically? Even if it were some sort of insurance 'test'...that ship and the propellers would kill the boaters... I can't figure this one...its Friday and I really hope to know 'the rest of the story'.
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Old 23-01-2009, 06:47   #21
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Old 23-01-2009, 09:50   #22
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OK, it looked like someone was running forward to the bow, I'm guessing that the freighter was going to windward of the boat hoping to leaving the cat along side in her wind shadow. I'm guessing that the catamaran was lying to a sea anchor, started running up on her sea anchor to retrieve it and ended up going straight in front of the freighter.
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Old 23-01-2009, 09:57   #23
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I'm also guessing that the starboard bow is damaged
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The captain's ex-wife is on the catamaran with her new sailor boyfriend. She got the boat in the divorce even though she had never sailed on it.
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wow Now this is a good example of why a multi is safer than a mono- its hard to beleave it has a hole that big and is not sunk to the deck, Im impressed at the boat!
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Well, very confused and amazed

1) Why did they leave the boat, even though they said both engine rooms were flooded, she is sitting up very well, I can see that the seas are pretty severe but the cat is riding it excellently, and will probably be still afloat for a very long time.

2) After being 'T' Boned she has still not sunk and still riding well

3) Does this not again prove the safety factor of multihulls over the mono's - keep quiet about this

4) Also people tend to belittle the quality of build of the mass producers ie FP, if I owned a cat that could take all this punishment and still be floating I would be delighted, I accept that there are better builders, but this cat has survived more that 99.9% than others, I would buy an FP no problem.

What does everybody else think???
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