Thoughts on this Schionning 9.5m mono design

[Strykar]

Is this a ketch?

https://schionningdesign.com/wp-cont...ernational.pdf

Where's the wheel supposed to be?
Would you cross oceans in this solo?
What are the other options for reputable DIY kit manufacturers?

[Greatest Lakes]

It uses a tiller on 2 rudders. They look undersized to me. The layout isn't bad, 2 masts seems overkill on a 31' boat. I'm not fond of ply sailboats, I'd do it with fiberglass and west systems. Has anyone built one? Looks like it's just plans so far. I'd like to see a lead bulb on that keel too.

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by Greatest Lakes

It uses a tiller on 2 rudders. They look undersized to me. The layout isn't bad, 2 masts seems overkill on a 31' boat. I'm not fond of ply sailboats, I'd do it with fiberglass and west systems. Has anyone built one? Looks like it's just plans so far. I'd like to see a lead bulb on that keel too.

It's not plywood. It's Duflex composite panels - either foam or balsa core with fiberglass on either side.

The two unstayed schooner mast are to allow lightweight and easily handled off-the-shelf carbon poles to be used. The idea is to be able to raise the mast by yourself at a boat launch and get sailing quick. Dividing the rig also keeps rigging loads low - lightweight/cheap hardware can be used - and lowers CE which seems to be an important design point with this boat. Only negative I see is that they take up a bit of space on the interior.

Very cool trailer sailor!

Matt

[Pete7]

Interesting, wonder what the cost of the kit is? Edit £21,000

Also its half the weight of my similar sized Moody. So what will it be like going to windward after a few hours in a F4-5? Will you need a trip to the dentist to have the filling put back?

But as a trailor sailor, doing 60mph down the motorway means you cover huge distances like the Baltic to the Med in 24 hours. That's two months by sea.

Originally Posted by Strykar

Would you cross oceans in this solo? What are the other options for reputable DIY kit manufacturers?

Interesting question. In the right season, maybe. There is a bit of a revolution going on in 30ft light fast monohull yachts and being encouraged by the likes of North Sails CEO. They can smell the money. Rather than have a 40-50ft yacht needing a 6 or 7 man crew, folk are racing 30ft yachts which can be sailed by a crew of two. Husband and wife etc. Would these boats cross an ocean. How about the south Atlantic? Its all about doing it in the right season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w91QTudntTM

[Greatest Lakes]

After going through the information available on it last night, it does seem like an interesting design. I still don't trust the daggerboard without more weight though, and I still think deeper rudders with a better profile would do better. That said, has potential to be fast, but going to lack comfort and privacy.

[etoimene]

Originally Posted by Matt Johnson

It's not plywood. It's Duflex composite panels - either foam or balsa core with fiberglass on either side.

This one mentions strip planking, not only Duflex panels.
https://schionningdesign.com/wp-cont...ernational.pdf

[joelhemington]

Originally Posted by Strykar

Is this a ketch?

https://schionningdesign.com/wp-cont...ernational.pdf

Where's the wheel supposed to be?
Would you cross oceans in this solo?
What are the other options for reputable DIY kit manufacturers?

They say it can be ordered with just one mast but there don't appear to be any shrouds or backstays. And a 31' monohull that does 10 to 15 knots? Some one has been smoking some bad *Hit. I don't think I'd take it across the bay, much less an ocean. If you wanted to cross oceans, you'd probably have to do it solo it as I doubt you'll find anyone who wants to get on that thing. Any time the designer suggests you use a solar bag if you want a hot shower, you know you're in some alternate dimension.

[Matt Johnson]

The strips used are Duflex panels ripped down into whatever dimensions strips needed. You can do it in wood too, but this is now the common way Schionning is doing it.

Matt

Originally Posted by etoimene

This one mentions strip planking, not only Duflex panels.
https://schionningdesign.com/wp-cont...ernational.pdf

[Adelie]

It's not a ketch, it's a schooner.
Probably handles similar to a ketch.

[nortonscove]

Aimed at nonsailors. Design is all over the place and on a boat that size very much over done. That v-berth is making me claustrophobic in the picture.