Which boat to enjoyably sail around the world

[YARGO]

I could have the perfect boat for you; 43' center cockpit cutter, 35' waterline, 30,000 lb displacement, very seakindly with good performance and all preparations made for sail to South Pacific including all new in 2012/13: new chainpaltes, watermaker, storm sails, dedicated trysail on seperate track, 3 x 135 watt solar panels, Monitor windvane, totally enclosed cockpit canvas, 12" chartplootter w/radar, Vesper AIS , new stove , 2 new heads,and more. Just recently completted a 4000 mi round robin Caribbean shakedown cruise from Florida mostly singlehanded with last solo passage nonstop from Panama to Fort Lauderdale in 12 days. And this boat is in your price range.

[Heffy]

Michael
I have a Panda 34, ready to go that fits your budget and requirements (on paper).
The boat is in great condition. Sleeps 5 comfortably, fully equipped and has forced air heating. Plans were to take the boat around the world however the Doctor dissagree's-so be it.


Located in San Diego. You are welcome to give me a call
Jeff Herriman 858 274-7161

[MIRELOS]

There's a beautiful Lord Nelson 35 waiting to sail around the world here in NYC, fully equipped. 90 should do it.

[MIRELOS]

hope the pics come out

[Scout 30]

With the OP's budget of $90,000 after refit the Panda & Lord Nelson are probably too expensive. A couple of really nice boats though.

[MIRELOS]

The Lord Nelson does not need a refit, new sails, solar panels, wind generator, inverter, it's ready

[Scout 30]

Originally Posted by MIRELOS

The Lord Nelson does not need a refit, new sails, solar panels, wind generator, inverter, it's ready

Good to know. As an aside, the 37' Lord Nelson Victory Tug is one of my all time favorite trawlers. Very cool boat.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by justmic

We are planning to sail around the world starting end of 2016 and allowing us 2 years time to enjoy.

I have been sailing for 30 years, . . .

- Budget ~ US$ 90,000 for the completely outfitted boat
- LWL over 30 ft
- Berths for 4 max needed (us and maybe 2 friends for short visits)
- Route will be mainly in cool to warm waters
- Large fuel capacity (could be retrofitted if necessary)
- Start of tour is in Texas, USA

2 years for RTW is pretty rushed. I would reconsider timeline or route or both.

Even with 30yr experience unless some of it has been offshore, you are looking for problems even without trying to make it in 2 years.

I would spend 50-60K on the boat leaving $40-30k for outfitting.

I would pick a boat 35-37' LoA. Longer is fast but it is also more expensive to buy, outfit and maintain and more importantly in difficult conditions it is a lot harder to handle, especially since you are going short handed.

I echo a previous post that you shouldn't worry about guests, they can shoe-horn in anywhere for a week or so, just don't try to take them on a passage.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by MIRELOS

hope the pics come out

A fine looking vessel. Just for **** and giggle where in NYC?

[MIRELOS]

Bronex

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by justmic

Hi

my name is Michael, I am 43 years old. My wifes name is Manuela and she is... younger than I am

We are planning to sail around the world starting end of 2016 and allowing us 2 years time to enjoy.I have been sailing for 30 years, but have never taken a long time off from work.

I would like to pick your brains about which boat we could use and for that I have prepared our boarder lines.

- Budget ~ US$ 90,000 for the completely outfitted boat
- LWL over 30 ft
- Berths for 4 max needed (us and maybe 2 friends for short visits)
- Route will be mainly in cool to warm waters
- Large fuel capacity (could be retrofitted if necessary)
- Start of tour is in Texas, USA

I know that opinions drift apart when it gets to Keel design for example, please throw all your experience and ideas out there for grabs.

Thanks, looking forward to your inputs

Michael

Pop Yachts is showing a 79 Morgan 41 OI for a list price of $49K.

Looks well maintained in the add, a little light on electronics but given the price it might fit the bill?

[justmic]

Originally Posted by hoppy

Asking here is the worst approach to finding a boat for yourself. Everyone will share their own biased opinion.

In the subject you say "enjoyably", the problem with that, different people have different opinions on what is enjoyable. Some people find enjoyment in a slow old small boat whilst others can only enjoy it in a roomy condo cat.

Personally, I think the best thing is st stay away from this thread and go to local marinas and look at online boat sites and see what takes your fancy. Then do some research on the interesting boats and then ask here or even better find an owners forum.

Good luck


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I disagree with this comment. There have been very many helpful comments here on this thread (there have also been very unnecessary comments as well but you will always have people who do that).

By posting this question I am not expecting for someone to have the "solution". --> As we all know, there is not the general perfect boat out there, as it is dependant on your preferences to what the perfect boat is.

By posting this thread I am asking for opinions, just to be sure that I have covered all bases. And there have been some new aspects that I hadn't thought about.

You have to stir the pot to enjoy all ingredients in the soup.

But thanks anyway for you opinion.

[Hobie_ind]

One item I'm continually surprised doesn't get more discussion is ease of handling downwind gear. On the trip you're planning, you'll hopefully be doing a lot of downwind sailing.

While it's less sexy than discussing storm tactics and gear, or righting moments and possible storm conditions, you'll use your boat's downwind setups FAR more than the above. I'd suggest ensuring the pole and downwind sail setup is easily rigged and doused singlehanded is critical for a cruising couple. I love our twin headsail and dual pole setup, but I know there are many other great options. Yes, you'll typically have both available for sail work, but if it's easy to do singlehanded you'll find it much safer and easier with two onboard.

My personal list of preferences in that size would be:
- Skeg hung rudder
- Draft less than 6' but I'd go up to 7' on the right boat
- Cutter rig to allow
- Mid to late production run from a well respected designer and builder (with the time you've got debugging a one-off is going to be tough)
- Chain locker sized for at least 300' of chain :-)
- 100 gal diesel minimum
- Room for arch and at least 450 watts solar
- I'd consider a tow generator or Watt & Sea hydrogenerator

Just my two bits.....

Mark
Amel Super Maramu
Currently cruising South Pacific with our two kids (15 & 13)

[justmic]

Originally Posted by Hobie_ind

One item I'm continually surprised doesn't get more discussion is ease of handling downwind gear. On the trip you're planning, you'll hopefully be doing a lot of downwind sailing.

Originally Posted by Hobie_ind

While it's less sexy than discussing storm tactics and gear, or righting moments and possible storm conditions, you'll use your boat's downwind setups FAR more than the above. I'd suggest ensuring the pole and downwind sail setup is easily rigged and doused singlehanded is critical for a cruising couple. I love our twin headsail and dual pole setup, but I know there are many other great options. Yes, you'll typically have both available for sail work, but if it's easy to do singlehanded you'll find it much safer and easier with two onboard.

My personal list of preferences in that size would be:
- Skeg hung rudder
- Draft less than 6' but I'd go up to 7' on the right boat
- Cutter rig to allow
- Mid to late production run from a well respected designer and builder (with the time you've got debugging a one-off is going to be tough)
- Chain locker sized for at least 300' of chain :-)
- 100 gal diesel minimum
- Room for arch and at least 450 watts solar
- I'd consider a tow generator or Watt & Sea hydrogenerator

Just my two bits.....

Mark
Amel Super Maramu
Currently cruising South Pacific with our two kids (15 & 13)

Mark I agree with many of your points.

Now to throw a boat out there that I have constantly been stumbling over and which seems to match most (not all) of the named requirements (and my own addtional requirements) in this thread is the Morgan Out Island 41 as sloop or ketch version. Prices between 15,000 and 50,000 can be found with various states of condition and equipment.

How does the Morgan grab y'all? Anybody out there who owns or owned one and did some extensive sailing with her?

[Olde Chief]

I agree with you, Justmic... The Morgan 41 OI is a great boat for a round the world cruise, and you will find a lot of them out there, doing just that. Go for it, I would... even in my Morgan 36 OI Ketch.