Crocodile assassination

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by LongRange

Animals have their natural habitats, and attempts to "manage" them almost always end in some kind of ecological mess. They don't need management - they just need to be left alone to let nature do its thing.

This is SOOOO WRONG.

Their original natural habitat has changed. Pretending that it hasn't and you can stop culling a population and they will magically reach a happy equilibrium that people can accept is unrealistic.

If people don't accept it, it doesn't matter if the species survives or what the ecological effects are. If people are worried about their kids getting eaten (reality or not), the answer will be made for you.

Managing them is what avoids the ecological mess and it avoids the knee jerk reactions.

[picklesandjesse]

I dive on my boat and clean the bottom here in the Clarence River... Northern NSW, even though it's fresh water. We have bull sharks who can live in fresh or salt water and now maybe crocs in a few years. The fresh water stays above the salt water. Good that I'll be dead by then anyway, even if not eaten.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by tp12

The 24m+ feral pigs in Aus are a bigger problem, IMO.

You have wild boar too

Someone should introduce BBQs to Australia, strikes me as a great way to solve two problems. I am still working on the spider one, but having lived in Hong Kong I remember the locals do have some odd eating tastes so perhaps hairy Oz spiders deep fried could become a delicacy. That or put one spider in a bottle of strong liquor and sell it to teenagers.

Pete

[Jim Cate]

considering the cost of the census and determining if same sex marriage is OK, I'm surprised that there has been a count of the 24,000,000 wild pigs. That's around one pig per Aussie, and I've never seen a wild pig. Wild Aussies... plenty of sightings!

Jim

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

considering the cost of the census and determining if same sex marriage is OK, I'm surprised that there has been a count of the 24,000,000 wild pigs. That's around one pig per Aussie, and I've never seen a wild pig. Wild Aussies... plenty of sightings!

Jim

I think feral is the word you are looking for, Jim, in both cases....


Meanwhile I don't think I could run as fast or as far as a hungry croc. Top of a car would be more of a challenge to me than the croc....

Up a tree? I recall an attack in Qland some years back... ate one fisherman... tree-ed (sp) the remaining 2 and had been sitting under the tree waiting ... and waiting.. and waiting...

I think they were up there for several days before anyone noticed.......

[Seabeau]

Crocodile Assassination? You can no more assassinate a crocodile than you can "murder" any other animal.

[tp12]

Originally Posted by Pete7

You have wild boar too

Someone should introduce BBQs to Australia, strikes me as a great way to solve two problems. I am still working on the spider one, but having lived in Hong Kong I remember the locals do have some odd eating tastes so perhaps hairy Oz spiders deep fried could become a delicacy. That or put one spider in a bottle of strong liquor and sell it to teenagers.

Pete

Haha, yeah I don't know why we haven't thought of it!

A few of my ex-army friends are right into pig and roo shooting.

Not sure about eating spiders, though ..

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

considering the cost of the census and determining if same sex marriage is OK, I'm surprised that there has been a count of the 24,000,000 wild pigs. That's around one pig per Aussie, and I've never seen a wild pig. Wild Aussies... plenty of sightings!

Jim

I'm afraid so. The Dept of Primary Industries is concerned with these things because they're destroying fences, ripping up farmland, destroying crops etc

That number is a few years old too

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Seabeau

Crocodile Assassination? You can no more assassinate a crocodile than you can "murder" any other animal.

A philosophical observation, but not terribly useful to the discussion which concerns an actual threat to human lives in an increasing area in Australia.

would you be happier if Ann had titled the thread "crocodile culling?" She's a moderator, and has the power to make the change if it is important.

Jim

[GILow]

Ann would have titled the thread "culling sex crazed crocs" if she could.

And why hasn't anyone mentioned drop bears or hoop snakes?

Oh... hang on...

[brownoarsman]

Originally Posted by GILow

Ann would have titled the thread "culling sex crazed crocs" if she could.

And why hasn't anyone mentioned drop bears or hoop snakes?

Oh... hang on...

Heh, or this guy! Who you gonna call ...

[Tetepare]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Someone should introduce BBQs to Australia,

Ahh....Australians believe that they invented the Barbie. Seriously. I've had colleagues and mates visit USA and they're amazed that there is a grill on the deck. I've never corrected them, they demonstrate such pride in "their invention" and I don't want them to be injured.

So far as crocs, removing them from a population zone isn't going to destroy the environment, it's already ecologically destroyed by the nature of being influenced by over-population. From polluted waters to overfishing to ruined coral, city areas may look OK to the layman but are totally imbalanced. If we're going to dump sewage in the water along with caffeine and anti-depressants, might as well kill the local crocs. It's for the children.

[hellosailor]

Pete-
If you tell the Thai tourists "free all you can catch & eat spider on the barbie!" they'll come down and solve that problem for you.

"Fundamental diff between sharks and crocs.... sharks can't chase me down the street...."
Right, but someone apparently hasn't been watching the Crocnado documentaries on the SyFy channel.

[IslandHopper]

Well this should keep these particular crocs occupied for awhile

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/austra...tern-australia

[tp12]

I saw that this morning, nuts!

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

Meanwhile I don't think I could run as fast or as far as a hungry croc.

Actually you don't have to, you just have to run a little faster than the guy running along side you.

Pete