Great Barrier Reef "cooked" to death

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by NorthSea

You mockers are delusional. Global warming is not a theory, it is a series of facts. Why don't you educate yourselves? Read some books and scientific articles on the subject. The overwhelming consensus of the scientific community is that overwhelming planetary changes are happening at an unprecedented rate. If you want to make a joke out of it to help you with your denial, you show yourselves as the shallow, selfish people that you are.

Ahah.. you mean like the change over to Diesel and Catalitic Converters was the secret to slowing down things..
Actually it speeded up so called GW but.. more importantly.. Profits..
The problem with scientists is they will always defend/support the Thesis/Opinion of the people paying their Research Grant.. few and far between are those who cut off their nose to spite their face..

[Exile]

Originally Posted by jackdale

A revenue neutral carbon tax.

Carbon taxes: Practicalities and prospects - AEI

AEU is a conservative think tank

https://ecofiscal.ca/carbon-pricing/

The Ecofiscal Commission runs the whole political spectrum

Carbon Pricing: A Useful Cautionary Tale – Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions

James Hansen supports the carbon tax.

It is multi-partisan.

No doubt. As described, the only party that has to pay is the consumer, not the fossil fuel cos. A boon for politicians because they can take credit for doing "something" at the next election cycle. A boon for oil cos. because of the positive PR. And it will of course create some jobs for your expansive regulatory state.

Btw, you've never really explained what portion of the up front outlays are "returned" to the consumer by check at the end of the month. There are no doubt costs of administration, and the amount of this mysterious "reimbursement" would presumably influence any intended disincentive to consume. But hey, good to hear you have the means and the motivation to start paying it. Let us know how it works out this winter up in Calgary. Hope it's not a cold one.

[boatpoker]

The cure ..... drastic population control.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

The cure ..... drastic population control.

Good luck with that.

You will of course be the first to volunteer to depart this world for the sake of the planet?

No?

Who gets to choose? Bill Gates? George Soros? The Federal Reserve? President of USA? President of Russia? Iran?

This solution is a difficult one to implement..unless its mass murder, I dont see it happening too soon, and if it does I see a lot of resistance from unwilling participants...

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by weavis

Good luck with that.

You will of course be the first to volunteer to depart this world for the sake of the planet?

No?

Who gets to choose? Bill Gates? George Soros? The Federal Reserve? President of USA? President of Russia? Iran?

This solution is a difficult one to implement..unless its mass murder, I dont see it happening too soon, and if it does I see a lot of resistance from unwilling participants...

Many governments already make payouts to promote child bearing with various child care and tax credits so why can't we reverse that and pay people not to have kids .... it's a start not a solution.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by weavis

Good luck with that.

You will of course be the first to volunteer to depart this world for the sake of the planet?

No?

Who gets to choose? Bill Gates? George Soros? The Federal Reserve? President of USA? President of Russia? Iran?

This solution is a difficult one to implement..unless its mass murder, I dont see it happening too soon, and if it does I see a lot of resistance from unwilling participants...

Well China had a go with its one child policy.. but they started running low on females..
Start with stabilisation maybe better.. each couple allowed 1 boy and one girl.. then 'SNIP' for both.. bugga all this 'Compassion' for the sterile and silly old bats having implants of embryo's at 60yrs of age..
Natural selection (Darwin) then kicks in and slowly stability will be achieved.. then our great and glorious leaders can kick in with their usual mix of manufactured wars and famines.. Bob's yer Uncle.. Job Dun..

[weavis]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Well China had a go with its one child policy.. but they started running low on females..
Start with stabilisation maybe better.. each couple allowed 1 boy and one girl.. then 'SNIP' for both.. bugga all this 'Compassion' for the sterile and silly old bats having implants of embryo's at 60yrs of age..
Natural selection (Darwin) then kicks in and slowly stability will be achieved.. then our great and glorious leaders can kick in with their usual mix of manufactured wars and famines.. Bob's yer Uncle.. Job Dun..

Im familiar with the implementation of enforced birth control. Somehow, it signals the end of personal freedom and the natural order of things in terms of families. Compliance in China was by mandate and enforced with abortion and incarceration. Lovely.

Of course the other issue is that governments cannot stop just at one control measure. Before you know it we will live in a single mindset and enforced regulations. Its the nature of governments. Everyone is equal but some more than others.

Sad.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by weavis

Of course the other issue is that governments cannot stop just at one control measure. Before you know it we will live in a single mindset and enforced regulations. Its the nature of governments. Everyone is equal but some more than others.

Sad.

Many governments have already done this and are continuing to meddle with the social engineering policies. We will never stop them but perhaps it's time to swing them to the other side. Canada for one continues to subsidize babymaking Why can't we subsidize non-babymaking ?

[weavis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59guruVL4o

[weavis]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Many governments have already done this and are continuing to meddle with the social engineering policies. We will never stop them but perhaps it's time to swing them to the other side. Canada for one continues to subsidize babymaking Why can't we subsidize non-babymaking ?

Well. Its a human biological thing. A right even.

Also if only a few countries do it, very soon those countries will be overwhelmed by the numbers of a different country, of a different religion, a different belief structure who now have superiority of numbers.

Just a small observation.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

OK, here's "a little foresight."

The scientific concensus on GW you so covent, will begin to vanish on January 20, 2017 when the funding begins to dry up.

Only in the United States, which will be the only country on the planet whose leader is a climate science denialist.

Another case of American exceptionalism.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

The cure ..... drastic population control.

Some homework on the demographic transition might be in order.



Check out the last two rows.

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Only in the United States, which will be the only country on the planet whose leader is a climate science denialist.

Another case of American exceptionalism.

And don't you forget it!!!!!!!!!!

Making America great again.

Food fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Some homework on the demographic transition might be in order.



Check out the last two rows.

Hogwash!!!!!

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

The cure ..... drastic population control.

Originally Posted by weavis

Good luck with that.

You will of course be the first to volunteer to depart this world for the sake of the planet?

No?

Who gets to choose? Bill Gates? George Soros? The Federal Reserve? President of USA? President of Russia? Iran?

This solution is a difficult one to implement..unless its mass murder, I dont see it happening too soon, and if it does I see a lot of resistance from unwilling participants...

Well the carrying capacity of the planet will adjust it either way. The question is how ugly or not we choose to make it...

Luckily (I guess), cooler heads than some of these here on CF are starting to prevail;



and the fertility rate of most of the world is just above replacement rate, with Africa expected to join the rest of the world by mid century.

Whether or not this is soon enough is open to question, the inertia built into the system may overload the capacity before any solution to the energy problem is reached...