Great Barrier Reef "cooked" to death

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by weavis

Well........... the biological norm is to desire children and to breed. To have this controlled by politicians and enforced by sterilisation/abortion and social stigmatisation seems the other end of a utopian nightmare.

...

For a long time, I used to think of that biological norm of being encouraged to procreate as
going down that utopian tube.

[chala]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

And so does the US military.

Curious thing to say.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

For a long time, I used to think of that biological norm of being encouraged to procreate as
going down that utopian fallopian tube.

There... fixed it for yah....

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by chala

Curious thing to say.

Sorry, had a link but the edit timed out. Here's one:

DoD Releases Report on Security Implications of Climate Change > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Article

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

Hadn't heard that one. The air quality improvement in California (read L.A.) has gone up steadily since the mid 70's right around the time catalytic convertors came to the automobile industry

You sure that's not just down to more onshore winds...

More than 10 million motorists who were “betrayed and misled” into buying diesel cars have been warned that they face higher costs as the European Union puts pressure on Britain to cut air pollution levels.
It comes as Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, announced plans to charge diesel drivers an extra £10 to drive in the capital – a measure that could be copied by as many as 18 other cities.
For more than a decade, motorists buying diesel cars have enjoyed tax breaks because the cars produce lower levels of carbon dioxide and are more fuel efficient.

Now, Britain is being sued by the European Commission for breaching air pollution limits, because emissions from diesel vehicles are contributing to tens of thousands of premature deaths each year.
Senior Conservatives are understood to be lobbying the Government to increase road taxes on diesel vehicles to bring them into line with petrol, although ministers have ruled out such a move in this parliament.

London will follow Paris and introduce an outright ban on diesel cars which are causing "serious health damage" in the capital, campaigners warn.
The Mayor of Paris has announced radical plans to ban diesel cars from the French capital by 2020 due to concerns about how much pollution the cars cause.
Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, is also grappling with the issue of how to tackle pollution from the fuels fumes which contain tiny particles and nitrogen oxides and have been increasingly proven to be seriously damaging to health.

France, which has the highest number of diesel cars on the road, will now ban the cars out right with Anne Hidalgo, the Parisian Mayor pledging "an end to diesel in Paris in 2020".

A couple of items

[chala]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Sorry, had a link but the edit timed out. Here's one:

“The Senate Appropriations Committee requested the report”

I do not think this would be peculiar to the US, all around the world governments would have contingency plans and with the latest migrations have them put to test.

[chala]

Originally Posted by boatman61

It comes as Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London,

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London,???

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by chala

“The Senate Appropriations Committee requested the report”

I do not think this would be peculiar to the US, all around the world governments would have contingency plans and with the latest migrations have them put to test.

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London,???

No one expected whats come out off Syria and N Africa.. least of all Merkel and the EU.. else Gaddafi would still be alive..
Boris was still the Mayor when the above was published.. but Khan may do things differently.. being a Socialist..

[Juho]

Originally Posted by chala

Can you name the key topics?

That's easy. Stop burning fossils (coal, oil, gas).

Politicians should thus create new rules that directly reduce burning of fossils, not e.g. rules that aim at increasing consumption of wind and solar power.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by chala

Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London,???

Two year old story.

More current story

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...polluting-cars

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Ironically I am child free and care more about future generations than many of you with children.

Since you didn't answer my question, I'll assume you are still without solar power and therefore.... just hand-wringing and blowing cow farts at the rest of us.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by weavis

There... fixed it for yah....

Weavis. You do know....that was on purpose?....[emoji3] [emoji3]

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Since you didn't answer my question, I'll assume you are still without solar power and therefore.... just hand-wringing and blowing cow farts at the rest of us.

And that personal attack is a convincing argument against AGW.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by chala

“The Senate Appropriations Committee requested the report”

I do not think this would be peculiar to the US, all around the world governments would have contingency plans

Of course. And this is just what they're saying in public. If you follow the Gwynne Dyer links from earlier: he interviewed some US generals at length, and in those interviews, their depth of concern about climate change and its potential effects is shown to be pretty deep. Just another datapoint that while some Americans may joke and scoff, the adults are taking climate change more seriously.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Two year old story.

More current story

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...polluting-cars

Cheers..