Great Barrier Reef "cooked" to death

[crabcake]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

The thing that does pickle my grandmother (as some Aussie uesed to say) is that Global Warming/Change has taken peoples eye off what is important.

Only giving a damn about CO2 emmissions by Western countries mean we don't emphasise polution in all its forms in every country.

As cruisers just try an sail into Indonesia. The place is an utter disgrace of trash dumped into waterways, forrests being burned to where the sky over SEAsia is always grey/white, factories belch out toxins of a million varieties different than CO2... and couldn't give a stuff about restricting CO2. And they do it with modernised slave labor with minimal wages, no social security, no health... and the only education is with a burka over your head.

Global warming may well exist, but it shouldn't rape the rest of the worlds problem we do have clear evidence of, and clear methods to fix.

Just go cruise Indonesia

^^^ What He Said^^^

And I would add - have you been to Mumbai India lately??? Another absolute pollution (water and air) disaster or monumental proportions.

"Of the world's top 20 polluted cities, 13 are in India compared to just three in China. Air pollution slashes life expectancy by 3.2 years for the 660 million Indians who live in cities, including Delhi. In China, the corresponding dip is marginally lower at three years."

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Weavis. You do know....that was on purpose?....[emoji3] [emoji3]

Oh yes I did!

I just like to be literal....

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Since you didn't answer my question, I'll assume you are still without solar power and therefore.... just hand-wringing and blowing cow farts at the rest of us.

Small scale approaches are really not the solution. Large scale solutions are needed.

What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change - IEEE Spectrum

I really cannot put a nuclear power plant in my basement.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by jackdale

More current story

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...polluting-cars

One twist in the Euro-diesel issue - the recent Volkswagen scandal suggests that the earlier decision to promote the adoption of diesel passenger vehicles may have been based on overoptimistic or even faked emissions measurements.

[outremer]

Originally Posted by crabcake

^^^ What He Said^^^

And I would add - have you been to Mumbai India lately??? Another absolute pollution (water and air) disaster or monumental proportions.

"Of the world's top 20 polluted cities, 13 are in India compared to just three in China. Air pollution slashes life expectancy by 3.2 years for the 660 million Indians who live in cities, including Delhi. In China, the corresponding dip is marginally lower at three years."

Regardless those countries on a per capita basis have a much lower impact on the environment. Basically because they consume less per capita. These issues you bring up are valid but the thing with climate change is, it's at critical point to change outcomes. If we don't change the existing course very soon a lot of tipping points will be passed in the next few years. The effects will be truly catastrophic. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sc...-a7450236.html

[kmacdonald]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Small scale approaches are really not the solution. Large scale solutions are needed.

What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change - IEEE Spectrum

I really cannot put a nuclear power plant in my basement.

From what I understand and have been told, we have passed the point of no return without elimination of 6 Billion+ humans in the very near future. I don't see that happening------it would make Hitler look like a Sunday School teacher.

The population projections from the UN is 7.4 billion now and about 11.2 billion by 2100.

[kmacdonald]

Yes, the US is shooting itself in the head with all its humanitarian aid programs. They call it unforeseen consequences.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

Yes, the US is shooting itself in the head with all its humanitarian aid programs. They call it unforeseen consequences.

In reality Humanitarian Aid rarely gets there.. most is siphoned off on the way in payments and backhanders... or converted to arms purchases from guess who.. the aid donors.

[Factor]

You all do realize that the great Barrier reef is not a single entity?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Factor

You all do realize that the great Barrier reef is not a single entity?

Sshhhhhhhhhhh..!!!

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

From what I understand and have been told, we have passed the point of no return without elimination of 6 Billion+ humans in the very near future. I don't see that happening------it would make Hitler look like a Sunday School teacher.

The population projections from the UN is 7.4 billion now and about 11.2 billion by 2100.

Who told you that?

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Who told you that?

"They" did...

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

"They" did...

The ubiquitous "they."

[brantleychuck]

Interesting article on what goes on the "peered reviewed" world of academia and environmental zealots
http://www.wsj.com/articles/my-unhap...tic-1480723518

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Small scale approaches are really not the solution. Large scale solutions are needed.

What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change - IEEE Spectrum

I really cannot put a nuclear power plant in my basement.

So instead you continue to cut, paste and blow hot CO2 onto the internet at deaf ears on CF.... which is basically doing nothing.

Even though I welcome global warming, our home and business are 100% solar powered.

Here's what I think of your "peer reviewed science."