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Old 21-04-2009, 12:58   #1
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Just received a message from Bali Marina, saying:

We would like to inform you that the Custom office here in Bali has started enforcing temporary import duty on foreign boat. We try to make a solution to compromise the situation at this time. Please visit our website www.indonautical.net and click on "NEWS" menu or you may call us on +62 08123842037 for more information.

Not looking good for Indonesia this year for those who don't want to go to Sail Bunaken with the rally and sail with Indonesian navy ship escorts.
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Old 22-04-2009, 14:38   #2
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Not looking good for Indonesia this year for those who don't want to go to Sail Bunaken with the rally and sail with Indonesian navy ship escorts.
Claire,

You don't have to sail the rally, you just need to sign up for the rally. When you sign up for it you get your CAIT.

Then you can go wherever you like.
This is a cut n' paste from the entry form:

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PLACES AND PLANNED DATE OF PLACES YOU WILL VISIT IN INDONESIA ....

You do not need to make your own list of places you plan to visit in Indonesia. If you use the list of ports and dates of arrival listed below, it will allow you to go to ALL places north and west of Saumlaki with the island of Batam just south of Singapore being the last Indonesian port before clearing for Singapore or elsewhere. The dates of your visit to each venue is only approximate and if you are early or late, make additional stopovers or skip any destinations it will not matter. If you are heading to the west you may of course check out of Indonesia at Bali or wherever you choose.
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Old 22-04-2009, 15:32   #3
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This creates major problems for those of us who will not be sailing through Indonesia during the rally times. We will be arriving in Bali in late September. Planned to stay in Bali 2 weeks and then sail (or motor since this will be transition season) to Singapore, and planned to use Indonautical to handle CAIT, etc. Had hoped to anchor overnight several times along the way but not get off the boat.

Now it appears that we will have to pay this ridiculous import fee. Anyone have any idea how much this will import fee cost for a 16-meter boat?

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Old 22-04-2009, 16:40   #4
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Don't even think about paying the bond. I read somewhere that it was 20% of the value of the boat. See Noonsite, for a message on the subject. They have no established procedure to either post the bond, or to get it refunded when you leave Indonesia.
Looks like the Indonesian government wants all the boats to go to this big event in Bunaken, this year. Even the sail indonesia rally offers no alternative to going there, this year, contrary to an earlier post.
We are like you and hope that Bali marina will find a solution, otherwise, we'll have to stock-up on fuel and hope we can make the 900 miles without stopping or being stopped... or change our plans alltogether.
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I don't see what your problem is... pay $500 or 25% of the value of your boat. Its not your country. They can charge whatever they like.

If you don't like it just sail through to the next country that wants you. Its only a few hundred miles max.


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I think the worry might be what happens if you transit Indonesia outside of the rally period. It's more like 1000nm to get from Bali to Singapore, not a couple of hundred, unless you take the 'outside route' via the Indian ocean.
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I don't see what your problem is... pay $500 or 25% of the value of your boat. Its not your country. They can charge whatever they like.

If you don't like it just sail through to the next country that wants you. Its only a few hundred miles max.


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The "problem" is that we will be transiting through Indonesia during transition season rather than monsoon season. That pretty much means motoring the entire 1000 miles from Bali to Singapore -- not something we really want to do in one stretch. Had hoped to be able to stop overnight several times to rest and not listen to the engine for a few hours.

FWIW, Indonautical informs us that we can stay 14 days without having to pay the $600 USD (not $500) for them to bond our boat in order to avoid paying the temporary import fee. If want to stay in Indonesia longer than 14 days then must pay the $600 USD for them to bond our boat.

Looks like we will be sailing Darwin to Bali, stay 13 days, and motor 1000 miles to Singapore.

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Oh, forgot to mention that Indonautical also informs us that there is also the little problem that since the Bali bombings a few years ago that it is illegal to jerry-jug fuel in Bali and there is no fuel available at the marina dock. So that is a little Catch-22 for those boats who must obtain fuel in Bali in order to have sufficient supply to motor 1000 miles to the next country of Singapore.

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