The Reef Ain't Dead

[lestersails]

Originally Posted by capn_billl

The bounceback shows the problem is not as serious, and "irreparable" as advertised.

As we develop new forms of energy (nuclear?) The Earth will rebalance itself likely WITHOUT human intervention, and a host of new taxes, and regulations.

Please recall that the current over-reliance on fossil fuels is substantially attributable to distorted incentives, in the form taxes and regulations. There is no way to solve this problem without addressing these factors.

[lestersails]

Originally Posted by Exile

I doubt it would be blamed on GW but it would be used to highlight one of the hazards of our reliance on fossil fuels, namely its transportation over water. This is not without justification, but the more rational answer is improved safeguards rather than elimination. Not unlike how pipelines are statistically much safer than trucks and trains, but that doesn't stop people from opposing the Keystone pipeline (or the Alaskan pipeline when it was being built). I guess it's just part of this vilification (more cancel culture) of fossil fuels generally and the industry that produces them. Pointing out the obvious and many downsides of FF as our dominant energy source is essential, but I never understood how the highly personalized hate-on for it informs rational discussion or debate.

Crocodile tears for the terrible injustices wreaked upon the deniers. Seriously, as soon as the debate is not going their way they suddenly change the topic from AGW to their own imagined victimhood. This is just another of the innumerable attempts to change the topic to anything other than the actual topic.
Anyone care to get back to the thread - is AGW causing serious harm to the GBR and other reefs?

[Reefmagnet]

The business of smoke and mirrors continues to unravel...



https://www.space.com/nasa-confirms-...year-on-record

2020 ties record for the hottest year ever, NASA analysis shows

While 2020 was technically hotter than 2016, the two years have effectively tied.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/qu...6-9f2c6d35391e

Queensland weather: May records set to tumble as state shivers through 'unusual' icy blast

https://www.wsls.com/weather/2020/05...tral-virginia/

Five May cold records tied or broken this weekend in southwest and central Virginia

An unseasonably cold May airmass will go down in the record books after chilling us this weekend

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news...-broken-where/

We've got another chilly day ahead, and more icy temperatures are expected throughout Tuesday: Here's where weather records have been broken this week.

https://watchers.news/2020/09/21/rec...st-eastern-us/

Scores of temperature records smashed as cold blast sweeps through Eastern U.S.

[Exile]

Clearly just another attempt by a denier to change the subject. Spoil sport.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

The business of smoke and mirrors continues to unravel...

...weaker jet-stream?

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

...weaker jet-stream?

My infant school grand children can make up better stories than that.


How about this one....


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN20S14O

Australia bushfires show clear climate-change fingerprint, scientists say

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Exile

Clearly just another attempt by a denier to change the subject. Spoil sport.

My bad.


Back on topic whilst maintaining the theme of infantile stories, here's another contribution


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dying-c...limate-change/

Dying coral reefs turn vibrant neon colors in apparent last-ditch effort to survive
...
...

Researchers at the University of Southampton's Coral Reef Laboratory studied 15 colorful bleaching events worldwide between 2010 and 2019 — including one in the Great Barrier Reef, the world's largest coral reef system — and recreated those ocean temperatures in a lab. They found that colorful bleaching events occur when corals produce "what is effectively a sunscreen layer" on their surface to protect against harmful rays and create a glowing display that researchers believe encourages algae to return.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

My infant school grand children can make up better stories than that.


How about this one....


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN20S14O

You know it's bad when Sophie the climate scientist had to cancel her family's beach holiday.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

My infant school grand children can make up better stories than that.

Not so fast. I deliberately chose the Financial Times. How less granola can I go? Guns 'n Ammo?

Please tell us why the polar vortex stories you linked to contradict the world's hottest year stuff.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Exile

You know it's bad when Sophie the climate scientist had to cancel her family's beach holiday.

If she had to spend "months" inside her home as a result of bushfires, the cancelled holiday is the least of her problems; Even before the bushfires I would suggest.

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Not so fast. I deliberately chose the Financial Times. How less granola can I go? Guns 'n Ammo?

Please tell us why the polar vortex stories you linked to contradict the world's hottest year stuff.

Because we don't get "polar vortexes" in the maritime climates of Australia and South Africa would be one stab in the dark.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

My bad.


Back on topic whilst maintaining the theme of infantile stories, here's another contribution


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dying-c...limate-change/

This time it's Sophie the climate journalist who has finally revealed why the issue has produced such a dedicated following.

"The Ocean Agency describes the process as a 'chilling, beautiful and heartbreaking' final cry for help as the coral attempts to grab the algae's attention."

Doesn't win over quite as many votes as polar bears on stranded ice flows, but it could still work as an effective reelection strategy. Sells plenty of copy too.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Not so fast. I deliberately chose the Financial Times. How less granola can I go? Guns 'n Ammo?

There's no escaping the lure of selling more newspapers, not winding up "listed" on desmogblog.com, or being accused of QAnon membership. You know, like all conservatives, donchathink?

[boatman61]

So who recognizes this place...

[lestersails]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

My bad.


Back on topic whilst maintaining the theme of infantile stories, here's another contribution


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dying-c...limate-change/

Would you please share with us your scientific insight into what is "infantile" with this research?

Current Biology VOLUME 30, ISSUE 13, P2433-2445.E3, JULY 06, 2020. Optical Feedback Loop Involving Dinoflagellate Symbiont and Scleractinian Host Drives Colorful Coral BleachingDOI:https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2020.04.055