Crew Wanted: husband needs captain, stuck in hampton, virginia.

[GrowleyMonster]

Originally Posted by more

Because this is a joke . Cobb's Marina to salt pond marina is only 12 nm

12nm or 1200nm, same thing. Their insurance company will not pay out any claims unless the insured party complies with the terms of the policy. This is USA, and US owners and skippers of considerable qualification and experience have weighed in with mostly well reasoned opinions, and at least two professionals have reached out to them with offers of assistance. But you suggest just go for it because it is only 12 miles? It is definitely not a joke. Nothing is funny when bloodthirsty lawyers and insurance companies are involved, on our side of the Atlantic.

[more]

Originally Posted by GrowleyMonster

12nm or 1200nm, same thing. Their insurance company will not pay out any claims unless the insured party complies with the terms of the policy. This is USA, and US owners and skippers of considerable qualification and experience have weighed in with mostly well reasoned opinions, and at least two professionals have reached out to them with offers of assistance. But you suggest just go for it because it is only 12 miles? It is definitely not a joke. Nothing is funny when bloodthirsty lawyers and insurance companies are involved, on our side of the Atlantic.

If this couple or new captain planing sink a boat or have an accident in first 12 nm of sailing I highly suggest sell this Bavaria 49 and leaving sea.

[stormalong]

Originally Posted by more

If this couple or new captain planing sink a boat or have an accident in first 12 nm of sailing I highly suggest sell this Bavaria 49 and leaving sea.

This is a very rude and insulting statement without any basis in fact.

No one, ever, said anything about an intentional "accident". Perhaps your unfamiliarity of English makes you say something as inflammatory as that.

The OP is working to protect their investment in their new yacht. Period.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Tanqueray

If the OP had captains lined up to help them move the boat down to Florida, why can’t they use one of those to move the boat to the marina for repairs?

We don't know where that skipper is. S/he may be based in Florida and flying to Norfolk for the training delivery. S/he could be based anywhere in fact and transportation wouldn't be significant in the context of six or seven days Chesapeake to FLL. That's entirely different from a three hour trip from Salt Ponds to Cobb's. Really want a local for that for cost control.

[Icarus]

Originally Posted by Island Time O25

Interesting thread.

How did "competent captains" move sailboats prior to invention of internal combustion engines?

Good question.
Competence is the word.
However if unsure install temporarily an outboard motor..say 10hp, will get you into the marina.?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Montanan

With the exception of some boats used on the inland waterways, there is no legal requirement to register boats based or used for recreational purposes in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland and associated territorial waters. However, if your plan to use your vessel overseas, it is required to register. There is a number of different registers available to boat owners in Ireland

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e subject to certain conditions.
In order to apply for a permit you will be required to provide evidence of insurance (3rd party minimum).

Boat Registration on Erne System, Shannon-Erne Waterway and Shannon Navigation

All craft with an engine capacity in excess of 10bhp on the Erne System and 15bhp on the Shannon Navigation and the Shannon-Erne Waterway must be registered with the Waterways Ireland Inspectorate. Registration is free and you can register by completing the online application form

The exact legal position and the practicalities of what can be done are often very different.

The inland registration is in fact a trivial thing , free , no proof required , and gets you a 30 mm by 60mm plastic sticker , the database resulting is completely out of date , is never updated on owner change and is a total best symbolic. ( no insurance proof is required ) the requirement is routinely flouted locally as the legislation has no real penalties. ( I know all this because I once tendered for a system to improve it all )

The vast majority of craft on the coast, ply to the uk and back , with a few Venturing further afield , the sheer difficulty in registering second hand vessels there are not a choice of registries ( there are different registrars , but the same system ) , that legislation was never enacted , means that unless you have pristine paperwork including fully notarised notarised bills of sale right back to the manufacturer , including full vat and CE paperwork , it’s impossible to register older boats with paperwork deficiencies.

This fact is tacitly acknowledged in Ireland by the complete lack of oversight into registration of private boats. Previously the Irish sailing association provided a non official mechanism but that’s discontinued. It’s why today most Irish yachts abroad will be sailing under a flag of convenience unless brought brand new, typically pre Brexit , uk registration , now increasingly polish.

Hence as the law says you don’t need registration on the coast unless yiu intebd to sail to the continent ( the uk being in international waters of course but ...)

Since the authorities do not do conduct check in procedures for yacht returning to home ports ( there is no border police force in Ireland ) and hence its impossible to arbitrarily determine where they came from , the main driver for some form of registration, it typically foreign countries insistence on having registration paperwork.

A telephone conversation with any of the registrars ( in Ireland registration is a function of the revenue department and is divided up and physically based in the ports of registry ), will elicit a good natured response that yes the system is entirely unsuitable for yachts and unfortunately their hands are tied by archaic legislation

There is only one register applicable , full commercial ships register , the other is only for fishing boats. My registration process ( which takes about 4 months) is the exact same as a big passenger ferry

The deficit is well known and comprehensive legislation was drawn up to facilitate yacht registration in 2004 , it was never enacted.

As I said there is no requirement in Ireland for a coastal based yacht to be registered

[SIGMACHI]

Do you have BOAT US or TOW BOAT US.
They should tow you the short distance across Hampton Roads!

If you don't have either, god gosh, why not!?
Good luck. Cobbs has done major worj for boating friends of mine.

Tight Lines!
Alan

[contrail]

Originally Posted by more

Not in Croatia (maybe other EU country)
1. king of all customer(user) service(insurance,trade company)
is law -LAW ON OBLIGATORY RELATIONS- this is all
an insurance company must compline or leave country.
2. Insurance companies don't have licenses for checking sailing's license, alcohol checks and similar. this is the only job of police and Harbour Master's Office.
3. no one can unsworn the permit issued by the Harbor Master's Office except the Harbor Master's Office itself. Such suspicions are rejected by the court as illegal objections and exceptionally if there is a suspicion of forgery, the verification of data is requested in writing from the Harbor Master's Office. Default interest is charged to the insurance company from the day of damage to the day of payment.
4 If the vessel is CAT 1 registered, the whole world. The insurance policy must cover it. In addition to war zones, the piracy zone issued by Loyds in its publications as War risk zone extended due to piracy threat and similar

They are NOT IN CROATIA and the laws are completely different, in the US. Please try to understand that. Start with understanding that the "Harbor Master's Office" doesn't issue or deny permits and go from there.

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by more

simply tell insurance you finish 100 hour with a captain.how insurance know you are green,who tell insurance you don't have expiriency

Insurance fraud...great idea (sarcasm intended).

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by Island Time O25

Interesting thread.

How did "competent captains" move sailboats prior to invention of internal combustion engines?

Launch the long boats along with a dozen sailors per boat to tow the ship into a berth?

Times and expectations have changed.

[In Training]

All is well, boat is being moved Monday 1/10 and work starting that day. This thread is at an end.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by In Training

boat needs new transmission. action marine at cobbs marina has it and ready to install but we need a captain to move the boat from salt pond marina to cobbs in virginia. our insurance requires us to have 100 hours with captain before we are on our own and bob planned to get that on trip down to florida and in florida. unfortunately can,t start that trip until transmission replaced and have to move boat to get it done. anyone know of a captain in hampton virginia area who could move my husband. i just drove from indiana to florida and will await him here. my husband's power cord is packed in my car somewhere so hw doesn't even have internet now.

Power cord in your car?
Where does it plug into him?

Sorry couldn’t resist.
I assume you have arranged a tow or to mount an outboard for the transit to the tranny repair marina.