Crew Wanted: looking for three flat earth theory followers

[s/v Jedi]

Proof that the earth is flat is easy: even with satellite positioning there’s only longitude and latitude, 2 dimensional, while sailing around an orb would mean you move in three dimensions, duh!

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by thesaltytar

Are you saying it didn't fall.... Flat?

I'll see myself out.

Boom tish.....

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Proof that the earth is flat is easy: even with satellite positioning there’s only longitude and latitude, 2 dimensional, while sailing around an orb would mean you move in three dimensions, duh!

Crikey, you mean you get to enjoy sailing on flat seas 24/7

[StuM]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

I was thinking.....actually more like wondering....about this phenomena one sees when seeing a large swarm of fish all swimming like one.....who or what controls this mob....what is it that makes them all swim as one unit..???

Taking this a step further, one must wonder about the constellations in the sky..???

It's similar to flocks of birds that you see swirling in patterns.. They've replicated these patterns in computer simulations by applying a simple set of rules to the objects.


In the case of a "fishball", it's pretty much one survival instinct (rule) that they all try to obey - if you find yourself near the edge of the school, swim towards the middle where you are less likely to be taken by a predator, without bumping into other fish.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by StuM

It's similar to flocks of birds that you see swirling in patterns.. They've replicated these patterns in computer simulations by applying a simple set of rules to the objects.

In the case of a "fishball", it's pretty much one survival instinct (rule) that they all try to obey - if you find yourself near the edge of the school, swim towards the middle where you are less likely to be taken by a predator, without bumping into other fish.

Not to get all serious here, but this is a good example of the kind of "predictable irrationality", to borrow a phrase from behavioural psychologist Dr. Dan Ariely, that is inherent in our species. We're master pattern-seekers, and can leap to causal conclusions, even when none exist.

Our brains have evolved to take scant information and find the underlying cause or pattern. It's been a hugely successful evolutionary trait, but it also results in a lot of false-positive conclusions. This is how we arrive at gods, goblins and ghosts as explanations for patterns we can't immediately understand.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Not to get all serious here, but this is a good example of the kind of "predictable irrationality", to borrow a phrase from behavioural psychologist Dr. Dan Ariely, that is inherent in our species. We're master pattern-seekers, and can leap to causal conclusions, even when none exist.

Our brains have evolved to take scant information and find the underlying cause or pattern. It's been a hugely successful evolutionary trait, but it also results in a lot of false-positive conclusions. This is how we arrive at gods, goblins and ghosts as explanations for patterns we can't immediately understand.

Not to get all serious here, but this is a good example of psycho-babble. Gods, goblines and ghosts are a long stretch from widely studied "flocking behaviour".

[thesaltytar]

[cdreid]

You really need to repost this is "Need my flat earth Brothers to help prove to these sheep the earth is flat"

They actually funded an idiot who built a rocket and launched it (didnt go well and he was Absolutely scamming them)

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Ah, so you know where the universe came from? Cool. I think the entire astro-physics community would love you to share this knowledge, because last I heard, where everything came from is still a bit fuzzy.

I meant the part about we know what gravity is and how it works

Everything related to gravity is a theory but none are proven

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

I was thinking.....actually more like wondering....about this phenomena one sees when seeing a large swarm of fish all swimming like one.....who or what controls this mob....what is it that makes them all swim as one unit..???



Taking this a step further, one must wonder about the constellations in the sky..???

This phenomenon is better understood than gravity

Well enough that quadracopters can be programmed to replicate the phenomenon

[StuM]

Originally Posted by cdreid

You really need to repost this is "Need my flat earth Brothers to help prove to these sheep the earth is flat"

They actually funded an idiot who built a rocket and launched it (didnt go well and he was Absolutely scamming them)

You mean this guy?


"didn't go well" has to be the understatement of the thread

[StuM]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

I meant the part about we know what gravity is and how it works

Everything related to gravity is a theory but none are proven

Another one who doesn't understand the concept of "scientific theory" and who falsely thinks that there is such a thing as "scientific proof"?

[thesaltytar]

Originally Posted by StuM

Another one who doesn't understand the concept of "scientific theory" and who falsely thinks that there is such a thing as "scientific proof"?

I thought it took proofs to make a theory? Anyway that's just my hypothesis.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by thesaltytar

I thought it took proofs to make a theory? Anyway that's just my hypothesis.

That would be "a theorem"
Don't confuse mathematics, logic and science.

You can have "mathematical proofs" and "logical proofs" of theorems, but not "scientific proofs" of a theory.

[AKA-None]

Originally Posted by StuM

Another one who doesn't understand the concept of "scientific theory" and who falsely thinks that there is such a thing as "scientific proof"?

I know what a scientific theory is and isn’t, don’t be silly

Einsteins theory of relativity explains many things but leaves much unresolved

If it didn’t then we wouldn’t have string theory trying to fill in gaps or trying to explain how gravity works, amongst other things