Northwest Passage

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by Exile

I don't doubt mid-Sept. is minimum ice extent, but would have thought most attempts were made earlier due to weather, along with maximizing daylight hours perhaps. Btw, any idea on approx. distances, say btwn the 'A' and 'B' points on the map Jack posted above?

I'm sure sailors attempt to make the passage as soon as they can, but it's already nearly a month past the Summer Solstice, and as Newhaul is quick to point out, there is still lots of fast ice even along the NWP route that typically clears earliest.

Looks like the route that Jack posted is about 1,400 NM, as the narwhal swims.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

perhaps you should relisten to the private interviews I know I have directed you to them.

I have watched them. She does not dispute AGW in any one of them.

[jackdale]

FYI - Northabout, which completed both the NSR and the NWP in one season arrived in Tuktoyaktuk on September 4. They arrived in Upernavik Greenland on September 13.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Josh, who owns the Flicka 20, has joined the crew of Breskell.

https://breskell.com/

I see so the prior posting about a flicka 20 making the attempt was in fact just a red hearing posting?

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2932452

Just wondering

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I see so the prior posting about a flicka 20 making the attempt was in fact just a red hearing posting?



Just wondering

No "red herring" . Just a misread. Soon corrected. You might try that yourself some time.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

No "red herring" . Just a misread. Soon corrected. You might try that yourself some time.

not red hearing from you but from the blogger to garner clicks.

[newhaul]

Here is a good article
https://electroverse.net/we-had-expe...ebreaker-back/

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Here is a good article
https://electroverse.net/we-had-expe...ebreaker-back/

From the article:

"The cold times have returned, in line with historically low solar output"

Which supports what Piers Corbyn said 5 years ago in that video.

[SailOar]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Here is a good article
https://electroverse.net/we-had-expe...ebreaker-back/

I noticed a couple of interesting graphs in the sidebar.

Sea ice volume is at a historical low for this time of year for the years shown:



And Greenland's surface mass balance is near historical lows for this time of year.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by SailOar

I noticed a couple of interesting graphs in the sidebar.

Sea ice volume is at a historical low for this time of year for the years shown:



And Greenland's surface mass balance is near historical lows for this time of year.

sea ice is shown for the last 10 years out of over 100. Years worth of data they have

Did you notice the snow cover charts as well ??
https://globalcryospherewatch.org/st...we_tracker.jpg
Still well above normal for the year .

There are many different parts that all go together that show the direction we are heading .

Solar grand minimum and global cooling .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by Pete7

From the article:

"The cold times have returned, in line with historically low solar output"

Which supports what Piers Corbyn said 5 years ago in that video.

That explains this:

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca...ange-heat-wave

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Here is a good article
https://electroverse.net/we-had-expe...ebreaker-back/

No preconceptions on that web site:

DOCUMENTING EARTH CHANGES DURING THE NEXT GSM AND POLE SHIFT

Just a reminder that the distribution of ice in Arctic Ocean is a function of wind.

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/seaice/...rculation.html

[Moo]

Originally Posted by SailOar

Minimum ice extent is mid-September,

which is when boats have the best chance of slipping through,

which is also when the Autumnal Equinox occurs,

which is when the whole Earth has roughly 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of night.

So I think Exile's mention of "night" isn't too far off.

End of August you'll get a bit of twilight there won't be any darkness until end of September. Most transits are completed by the end of August although some push into September but ideally not late September. Nobody likes to be around ice in darkness ( I certainly don't ).

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

That explains this:

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca...ange-heat-wave

I forgot you are part of the indoctrination team of the false narrative of agw
But your latest posts have nothing to do with the ice outlook for the NWP.

Still a heck of a lot of fast ice there

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I forgot you are part of the indoctrination team of the false narrative of agw
But your latest posts have nothing to do with the ice outlook for the NWP.

Still a heck of a lot of fast ice there

I think you have forgotten much.

Notice the change over the past week.