Northwest Passage

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

perhaps you should actually look at what I sent you .
The fact that you say its not there just proves you don't do your due diligence
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/...I%3E2.0.CO%3B2
This link will download the study

Now provide the quote from the study. Which, BTW, is not from the DOE.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Now provide the quote from the study. Which, BTW, is not from the DOE.

2 things first do your own work .
Second the graph from the doe is posted earlier in the thread go read it .

Lastly none of it has to do with the focus of the thread which is the NWP . Still full of fast ice .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

2 things first do your own work .
Second the graph from the doe is posted earlier in the thread go read it .

Lastly none of it has to do with the focus of the thread which is the NWP . Still full of fast ice .

It is your assertion, it is your work.

You are the one deflecting.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Still full of fast ice .

At least half of the NWP is open water right now.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

At least half of the NWP is open water right now.

and you get your data where ?
Environment Canada still shows complete cover with fast ice across 90% of the archipelago at a minimum .
I do not look at any areas that are considered " open water "
Meaning at least 25 miles of open surface between land masses.
You should go there and send back pictures .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

and you get your data where ?
Environment Canada still shows complete cover with fast ice across 90% of the archipelago at a minimum .
I do not look at any areas that are considered " open water "
Meaning at least 25 miles of open surface between land masses.
You should go there and send back pictures .

Out of what orifice did you pull that definition of "open water".

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Out of what orifice did you pull that definition of "open water".

by your definition of the NWP where do you start and end .
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/open_water
An expanse of an ocean, sea, or large lake which is distant from shore and devoid of nearby islands or other obstructions

I am only concerned with the various straits in the archipelago
The majority of the rest is not a concern as it is more affected by weather and winds .
Now I'm done sparing with you wrt your superiority complex .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

by your definition of the NWP where do you start and end .
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/open_water
An expanse of an ocean, sea, or large lake which is distant from shore and devoid of nearby islands or other obstructions

So nothing about 25 miles. That you just pulled out of an orifice.

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I am only concerned with the various straits in the archipelago
The majority of the rest is not a concern as it is more affected by weather and winds .
Now I'm done sparing with you wrt your superiority complex .

Look at the open water in the western Arctic from one of your own posts

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Look at the open water in the western Arctic from one of your own posts

yes the 25 miles is arbitrary that would in my estimation mean that would be unencumbered by any leeshore.
However you should actually look at the pictures I post that my antagonistic friend is the eastern arctic ( that is Greenland on the right side of the chart. )

this is the chart you ment to post in sure .
https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/...wrap=1&lang=en

[newhaul]

Just look at all that brown ( multi year ice)
on this stage of development graphic.
https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/...wrap=1&lang=en
Eastern

https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/...wrap=1&lang=en
West

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Just look at all that brown ( multi year ice)
on this stage of development graphic.
https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/...wrap=1&lang=en
Eastern

https://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/cgi-bin/...wrap=1&lang=en
West

That brown is not in the NWP.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

That brown is not in the NWP.

do tell please map out your route all the way through without crossing any multi year sea ice that is in the NWP . Kind of looks like brown is blocking all entrances on the east .
Do you need to clean your glasses
Doesn't matter what route you choose .

[jackdale]

Originally Posted by newhaul

do tell please map out your route all the way through without crossing any multi year sea ice that is in the NWP . Kind of looks like brown is blocking all entrances on the east .
Do you need to clean your glasses
Doesn't matter what route you choose .

Two yachts transmitted the NWP last year.

There were 34 transits in 2017.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by jackdale

Two yachts transmitted the NWP last year.

There were 34 transits in 2017.

the SV infinity. 120 ft steel hill motorsailor west to east route 6
The SV Thor 54 ft swing keel east to west route 5
22 others attempted and failed due to ice .

and one was lost due to ice thankfully no loss of life .