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09-11-2015, 10:48
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Yorkshire Girl
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South West Florida
Posts: 19
1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
New to sailing and
live aboard
. I love the look and feel of the
Beneteau
, but a die hard
Morgan
fan is advising against
buying
for the look and feel of a
boat
and instead go for something sturdy and practical. I'm a girl and I want a
boat
that I like, with an open and airy feel, but I also want to be safe when sailing in South West
Florida
, down to the Keys and the
Caribbean
.
Is this a boat I will likely be able to sail myself?
Thank you in anticipation,
Carole.
09-11-2015, 11:29
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Calif.Ted
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Southern California
Boat: Catalina 320
Posts: 1,357
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
The
center cockpit
adds a little challenge when
docking
,
mooring
or
anchoring
solo, but should be as easy as any other 36' boat to sail.
10-11-2015, 09:03
#
3
Eleuthera 2014
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Earth
Boat: Amel Super Maramu 53 ft
Posts: 614
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Hello Yorkshire girl,
Welcome aboard. The CC 36 is indeed a nice vessel.
Center cockpit
has challenges but only small ones; on the other hand, the
cockpit
is well protected and a huge bonus in heavy seas.
You stay a lot dryer...
10-11-2015, 09:14
#
4
Vasco
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto
Boat: CS36Merlin, "La Belle Aurore"
Posts: 7,557
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Calif.Ted
The center
cockpit
adds a little challenge when
docking
,
mooring
or
anchoring
solo, but should be as easy as any other 36' boat to sail.
How is this? I've found center cockpits to be easier when docking and anchoring. The visibility is so much better, you don't have 36 feet (or more) of boat ahead of you and you're a bit higher. The only thing I don't like about them is that the cockpit is usually wetter when going to
weather
. The B36CC has a lot of room for a 36 foot boat.
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Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.
10-11-2015, 09:53
#
5
Robin3
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold
Posts: 823
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Yorkshire Girl
New to sailing and
live aboard
. I love the look and feel of the
Beneteau
, but a die hard
Morgan
fan is advising against
buying
for the look and feel of a boat and instead go for something sturdy and practical. I'm a girl and I want a boat that I like, with an open and airy feel, but I also want to be safe when sailing in South West
Florida
, down to the Keys and the
Caribbean
.
Is this a boat I will likely be able to sail myself?
Thank you in anticipation,
Carole.
Are you really a Yorkshire girl? I'm a Brit from Sunny Poole, Dorset with a 1998
Oceanis
36 CC here in Florida. Not a
liveaboard
on this boat after I had a stroke when we lived aboard a 47ft
trawler
yacht and we went back to sail plus a condo dirt home instead. The
Oceanis
is very roomy and comfy below and handles easily. Ours has a shoal draught winged
keel
and 48ft air draught which is perfect for the skinny waters of the
ICW
,
Florida Keys
and
Bahamas
Back in the UK we owned a 41 foot
Jeanneau
Sun Legende, modified for long distance cruising and that would have made an excellent live aboard except that the draught was 7 ft and air draught also on the limit for the 65ft fixed bridges of the Ditch, but with the 48ft air draught of the Benny we don't panic .
Ours has a
Yanmar
3GM30
engine
which gives an easy
cruise
speed of 7kts it is easy to handle ahead and astern ( eat your heart out long keeled Morgan owners
) which makes for stress free berthing in tight spots. We are both wrinklie pensioners ( I'm 70) and sail just two up so no fit crew to help. Because of my stroke I did have stern
davits
installed to carry a
RIB
as
tender
, easier and more stable. The 9.9hp
motor
stays on the
RIB
for calm waters use but we have a
motor
lift
davit as well to raise it from the
dinghy
onto a pushpit bracket if we expect lumpy sailing.
We have in
mast
furling
mainsail
( and the usual
furling
genoa) which is a first for me after 50 years of sailing back in
Europe
, another concession to my stroke and the two total hip
replacements
I had before leaving the UK to live here (my wife is American BTW)
Feel free to ask any specific questions about the Oceanis 36CC. Ours was built in
France
and shipped here for the original
USA
owner but I think they were later made in the
USA
also There is a Beneteau website with info on all models which is very useful and it has info from quite a few 36CC owners that you may find very useful.
Google
it on U tube too and there are some good videos one of 'Carolina Girl' IIRC under sail in
California
Robin
10-11-2015, 10:21
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6
Yorkshire Girl
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: South West Florida
Posts: 19
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Thank you Robin, it's great to speak with someone who owns what appears to be the exact same boat...yes, the
engine
is the same...and yes, I am really from Yorkshire. Lived in Sandgate on the south Kent coast for the past 8 years before coming out to Florida in March of this year
10-11-2015, 10:31
#
7
Cheechako
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,695
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Yorkshire Girl
New to sailing and live aboard. I love the look and feel of the Beneteau, but a die hard Morgan fan is advising against buying for the look and feel of a boat and instead go for something sturdy and practical. I'm a girl and I want a boat that I like, with an open and airy feel, but I also want to be safe when sailing in South West Florida, down to the Keys and the Caribbean.
Is this a boat I will likely be able to sail myself?
Thank you in anticipation,
Carole.
That boat is fine for your use. Many of us on this forum, and elsewhere believe in older design, sturdy
boats
, but we think in terms of sailing across oceans, for years etc.
Many people sail the oceans in Beneteaus. Old
boats
are great but can be major
work
....and continual
work
too.
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- Elmore Leonard
10-11-2015, 11:01
#
8
Robin3
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold
Posts: 823
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Yorkshire Girl
Thank you Robin, it's great to speak with someone who owns what appears to be the exact same boat...yes, the engine is the same...and yes, I am really from Yorkshire. Lived in Sandgate on the south Kent coast for the past 8 years before coming out to Florida in March of this year
The u tube video is here
I was born and schooled 30 miles north of London but sailed, and raced occasionally, out of Poole, Dorset for nearly 50 years in multiple boats and lived there for 30 before moving here to Daytona Beach Florida in April 2012 We now live in a 3rd floor condo directly overlooking the
ICW
but our boat is 10 minutes away south in
Halifax
Harbor Marina in Downtown Daytona Beach which is where we kept the
trawler
we originally lived on for a year.
I have since seen a few other posts you made and the replies and can add you WILL need
air conditioning
. The Beneteau has excellent ventilation via 11 open
portlights
and 5
deck
hatches which aids freeflow of air if there is a breeze and it is not raining hard but it can get sauna like when there is not. We have two aircons, one feeds the main and forward cabins and gallet area and the other the ster
cabin
. Our stern 'owners'
cabin
was altered by the original owner to have an athwartships double although the fore/aft is still usable as such as the
cushions
are still there. This sideways double suits better for me as it happens, easier to get in and out, plus it has the benefit of being more comfy if the boat is rolling in an anchorage as they do from time to time unless you are directly pointing into the swell.. We can only really run one aircon at a time if not plugged in to mains
shore power
in our slip, via our little 2Kw
Honda
generator
.
10-11-2015, 18:00
#
9
Polux
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 6,140
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
I am not sure if the Beneteau 36cc has the same
hull
of the Beneteau 361, the dimensions match, the
designer
is the same and they come to the market at about the same time 1998/1999.
Both boats are very similar except on the configuration, one is a Center cockpit the other is a aft cockpit, the built and seaworthiness is similar and in what regards sailing comfort there are advantages and disadvantage: The center cockpit offers a bit more protection to spray but being on a higher position and more away from the CG the lateral movement is bigger up there than on a lower cockpit.
What these center cockpit offers (Bavaria had also one that had the same
hull
as the "normal" version) is a lot more
interior
space. There are sometimes the idea that these boats are more strong or more
seaworthy
than the versions with the aft cockpit but that has not any substance.
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10-11-2015, 18:17
#
10
Emmalina
Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Thailand
Boat: Herreshoff Caribbean 50
Posts: 1,110
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Calif.Ted
The center cockpit adds a little challenge when docking, mooring or anchoring solo, but should be as easy as any other 36' boat to sail.
I personally find it a lot easier
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18-11-2015, 05:50
#
11
LaMer
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Palm Desert California
Boat: Beneteau, Oceanis 351, 35'
Posts: 4
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Yorkshire Girl,
A good question you posted is
safety
. Beneteau boats fall under the building and construction materials that have " CE "
certification
which is also a third party
inspection
as apposed to most US built under " ABYC " guidelines. My
advice
is to compare these to form an opinion in regard to
safety
. Under CE cert. most European builders follow this in order to comply with " ISO " standards and require a third party to certify that this was adhered to.
Regards,
Mike
18-11-2015, 20:42
#
12
1234 Thunder
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Illinois
Boat: Beneteau 35 S 5
Posts: 11
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
LaMer
Yorkshire Girl,
A good question you posted is safety. Beneteau boats fall under the building and construction materials that have " CE "
certification
which is also a third party
inspection
as apposed to most US built under " ABYC " guidelines. My
advice
is to compare these to form an opinion in regard to safety. Under CE cert. most European builders follow this in order to comply with " ISO " standards and require a third party to certify that this was adhered to.
Regards,
Mike
As someone very familiar with "CE" standards and ISO certification, there is no way that someone can read these specs and decide which boat is safer. Most companies have to hire consultants to interpret the specification for them. Not to mention the incredible boredom of the reading. That alone could kill you -- negating any safety advantage.
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18-11-2015, 21:01
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Robin3
Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlantic ICW 29N/81W
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 36CC, now sold
Posts: 823
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
1234 Thunder
As someone very familiar with "CE" standards and ISO certification, there is no way that someone can read these specs and decide which boat is safer. Most companies have to hire consultants to interpret the specification for them. Not to mention the incredible boredom of the reading. That alone could kill you -- negating any safety advantage.
You cannot 'buy' safety, or specify it in ratios or other figures it is a state of mind nor do you sail by artificial CE numbers, or drive a boat like a driverless
Google
car.
The biggest influence on performance and safety at sea is the nut holding the
wheel
or tiller
19-11-2015, 08:58
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14
Polux
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Portugal/Med
Boat: Comet 41s
Posts: 6,140
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Robin3
You cannot 'buy' safety, or specify it in ratios or other figures it is a state of mind nor do you sail by artificial CE numbers, or drive a boat like a driverless Google car.
The biggest influence on performance and safety at sea is the nut holding the
wheel
or tiller
I agree but only partially. Not all boats are the same in what regards scantlings and stability, even if they are the same size. I agree also with the previous poster that said that it was not through being CE approved or ABYC approved that you know about a boat seaworthiness. Those are just minimums.
Also when we talk about a
used boat
wit 10 or 13 years it should not be analyzed in what regards
security
as if it was a
new boat
. Other concerns like if the rig was changed?, the seacocks have been changed? the boat has been grounded hard? The boat structure and bulkheads are in perfect condition and the bonds are in perfect shape?, the
keel bolts
are tight? how many hours has the the engine? it has been well maintained according to the chart
maintenance
?the
rudder
has been taken out regularly and
maintenance
has been done properly? are just some items that has to do with
security
, that you don´t have to check on a
new boat
but that are indispensable to check on a
used boat
with 10 or more years.
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11-03-2021, 11:37
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Oliyeates
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 2
Re: 1998 Beneteau 36 CC Oceanis
Hey everyone.
I’m trying to understand the load capacity for the savors that are installed on my 1998 Beneteau Oceanis 36cc. I.e how much weight can the
davits
hold?
I have check inside the boat and it appears that the davits are original from the factory build as the starboard davits bolts and backing plate are mounded into the
fiberglass
.
There are no markings on the davits etc so I am not sure who built them (Beneteau or another company for Beneteau)
Does anyone have this old capacity info?
Many thanks
Oli
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