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Old 29-04-2014, 21:51   #16
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Re: 1st time in the Pacific

Our first time in the Pacific yesterday as well. Just one difference. A few thousand miles away, off the coast of Washington State, US.
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sweet , didn't know you had green tree frogs in Washington State, USA . How big was yours ?
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sweet , didn't know you had green tree frogs in Washington State, USA . How big was yours ?
Wifey B: Did you really ask him how big his was? Oh green tree frog. I wasn't paying attention I guess. Was it that brown animal that growled? How can they call it bare when it's got all that fur?

Seriously are the tree frogs big in Australia? I mean they're only a couple of inches in the US aren't they?
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Hi jimmy,

Another local here.

Last time we went to Broughton Island from the lake it took 8 hours by motor and we were being overtaken by bare foot water skiers. It was a mill pond outside that weekend. What is you expected hull speed? I like the idea of not using the donk but sometimes its got to be done !

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Wifey B: Did you really ask him how big his was? Oh green tree frog. I wasn't paying attention I guess. Was it that brown animal that growled? How can they call it bare when it's got all that fur?

Seriously are the tree frogs big in Australia? I mean they're only a couple of inches in the US aren't they?


Down Here some are as big as your hand
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Hi jimmy,

Another local here.

Last time we went to Broughton Island from the lake it took 8 hours by motor and we were being overtaken by bare foot water skiers. It was a mill pond outside that weekend. What is you expected hull speed? I like the idea of not using the donk but sometimes its got to be done !

Hope to see you on the water

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around 5 knots , so 42 knots from Newcastle to Port Stephens in the good conditions like yesterday the 2/05/2014 , around 8hours 30 mins, mind you yesterday was unreal , sailed to the Sygna and back in under 3 hours. and that was counting the tacking in the harbour .
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around 5 knots , so 42 knots from Newcastle to Port Stephens in the good conditions like yesterday the 2/05/2014 , around 8hours 30 mins, mind you yesterday was unreal , sailed to the Sygna and back in under 3 hours. and that was counting the tacking in the harbour .
wait its under 30 knots so that's around 6 hours at best , most likely longer

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Nautical miles, not knots. NM is distance, Knot is speed (NM per hour).
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sounds like a great trip. I live vicarousely
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wait its under 30 knots so that's around 6 hours at best , most likely longer

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Jimmy, when estimating transit times it is very unwise to base things on your hull speed. It takes very very unusual circumstances to maintain that speed, especially on a passage that involves entering an estuarial port like Pt S. Not only do you have to make nearly a 180 degree turn, but there are strong tidal currents to contend with (actually on both ends).

A figure of perhaps 75% of hull speed would be more possible, and even that will take good conditions and good luck. There are a lot of things that can slow a small, very light vessel down. Of course, you could get just the right wind strength and wave shape to allow surfing all the way across Stockton Bight. If that should happen, go directly to Nelson head and buy a lotto ticket,'cause it's surely your lucky day!

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PS I make it about 32 nautical miles from the cityfront in Newcastle to the marina in Nelsons bay.
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Nautical miles, not knots. NM is distance, Knot is speed (NM per hour).
very true thanks stum
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thanks Jim ,that's very true . o by the way , when I was practicing heaving too in 20 knots of wind I was surprised how stable my boat became , witch was very nice . However as I watch how she was behaving I noticed she was still moving forward, only slowly ,but still forward . I have read about heaving too that stated the boat was moving backwards , ?? I wonder if I was doing something wrong ? or is that how my boat behaves ,and the boat I was reading about behaved differently . or maybe my heave too was less into wind than the reversing boat ?

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Jimmy, heaving to in a very small and light boat is kinda a crap shoot. Many flat bottomed boats with fin keels tend to fore reach slowly when hove to... like you describe. Perhaps the critical issue is that it does become stable, the motion is diminished and heel angle minimized... all so you can do something away from the helm.

MOving backwards is not a feature of being hove to. In general, it isn't a good idea because the boat isn't so stable and it puts strains on the rudder that it isn't designed for. Bad idea IMO!

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Great to hear from another Newy sailor. I have a Cav32 sitting at the marina. Always fun sailing in the flat water of the harbour and transitioning to the ocean swell at the mouth. I'll keep an eye out for you. Cheers
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