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Old 26-10-2010, 07:05   #16
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I uses the Cetol Natural, it's a much better color than the original " orange" color.

After you build up the coats you can put the gloss over it, or not, up to you. Try it on a small section, see if you like it. I'm pretty happy with mine.
I use it for the exterior mostly.
I too like the looks of the natural. A friend uses the cetrol light and it does have a orange tint to it and the original cetrol will built up to a dark brown. I know since I used that for 10 years prior to switching to the natural color. One thing that I did find out is that it is best to apply a gloss coat over the natural. That gloss seems to help with the UV protection which seems contrary to what is expected since the color coating itself should be more resistant than the clear gloss?
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Old 26-10-2010, 10:10   #17
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I think ,sikkens cetol HLS ,and then the filter 7 exellant alternative to varnish.you will need to rub wood right down to bare then if teak degreese, 2 coats of base then 1 of filter 7 then every 12-18 mths quick wash down with fresh water and 1 coat on top very quick,if any areas have been worn through to bare wood easy to touch in with base coat first. Very important to use the lightest shade ie pine or light pine does not have the depth of varnish but looks nearly as good,and wit out 7-9 coats of carefull application.They now do a novateck version which contain 75% solids so should last even longer.
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the cetol clear gloss looks pretty good compared to varnish and is easy to use. the tinted cetol will turn dark over the years.
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If varnishing is something you do not enjoy then Cetol sounds like a good way to go. Personally I do not mind varnishing as I enjoy the mindless work (it seems therapeutic the me) kind of like knitting but you are out in the fresh air and sunshine. When we owned our house I really enjoyed painting so enjoying varnishing is not that much of a reach for me.
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Consider that varnishing is only distantly related to painting.

It's not the actual varnishing that is the issue it the preparation for varnishing. To do it right all the fittings must be removed. Then all the varnish must be removed. Then all the stained spots in the wood must be bleached/sanded/etc. to get back to the unstained state. Then you get to apply the varnish. Then you get to do everything all over again in a couple years.
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It's not the actual varnishing that is the issue it the preparation for varnishing. To do it right all the fittings must be removed. Then all the varnish must be removed. Then all the stained spots in the wood must be bleached/sanded/etc. to get back to the unstained state. Then you get to apply the varnish. Then you get to do everything all over again in a couple years.[/QUOTE]

I want to simply brush something on the wood as is, no sanding or bleaching or any preperation whatsoever. The reason is exactly what you said, its to do all over again and again.
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We redid our brightwork this spring and used the Cetol Natural. Liked it much better than the other colors. Don't have a picture of varnish to compare but here is a pic of the Cetol Natural next to bare (cleaned) teak.
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Here is a varnished companion way. Definitely a BIG difference between varnish and cetol.

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never got to see the inside till I followed your link.

that is the most beautiful boat I ever saw at any dock. She is just absolutely gorgeous standing next to her on the dock. I have serious pea green boat envy for that boat.

Hey Golden Heart! If you're ever for sale, please PM me! I want first dibs.
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I should have also added in my previous post that the picture is just 3 coats of cetol, with no gloss.
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I should have also added in my previous post that the picture is just 3 coats of cetol, with no gloss.
Thats the look I whant, nice!!
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I really like the look of Semco, but for some reason West has stopped carrying it. Defender has it.
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How about pine tar & linseed oil?
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I have varnish and Cetol on Idora as an experiment to see which aggravates me the most......

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What a perspective. Makes shopping for a lot of things easy.

Which one of these do I hate the most? Then just grab any of the remaining items. Brilliant.

Hannah on Rita T picked my favorite. Really great stuff for little or no preparation and ease of application. When your done it looks like brand new but unvarnished teak.

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