Ahoy Carbineer 46 Owners

[gavron]

Many thanks Mike.
Tomorrow we are taking the yacht out of the water for a survey.
And I am taking your check list with me.

Greg

[GordMay]

Greetings and welcome aboard the CF, Tyke.

[Moody Mike]

So how did the the survey go ?

[Moody Mike]

Well we will never know did Greg by the Carbineer or was he pipped by another eager cash buyer. One good thing to know is Carbineer's sell quickly . That one came on the marke & sold again before I even knew it was available. I do check regularly. Its not surprising really as they have all the features of a Buizen plus legendary sea keeping qualities of Laurent Giles designs along with exceptional build quality from the Lasky or Moody yard depending on where yours was built. I do wish Gavron would return to finish the story .
Mike

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Moody Mike

Well we will never know did Greg by the Carbineer or was he pipped by another eager cash buyer. One good thing to know is Carbineer's sell quickly . That one came on the marke & sold again before I even knew it was available. I do check regularly. Its not surprising really as they have all the features of a Buizen plus legendary sea keeping qualities of Laurent Giles designs along with exceptional build quality from the Lasky or Moody yard depending on where yours was built. I do wish Gavron would return to finish the story .
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What a beauty!

Laurent Giles' design s are sexier than Dixon's.

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[Moody Mike]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

What a beauty!

Laurent Giles' design s are sexier than Dixon's.

Sent from my D6633 using Cruisers Sailing Forum mobile app

They sure are look at those lines imagine the mould required to turn out this shape. Not a flat surface to be found shes all curves.

[gavron]

Hi all,
Happy New Year 2017!

Time is flying. Yes, now I am the owner of 1984 Carbineer 46. Survey went OK, no any major problems. Now I'm facing a huge task to become its Skipper. A big step from 34' Bavaria to 46’ Carbineer. As my son said: This is not a yacht, this is a ship. I knew every square inch of the Bavaria and I have to do the same with this one. Hope I can count that you will share your Carbineer experience.
The biggest task will be to make the electric system much simpler. Three different battery charges: one from engine alternator, one for shore power and one from genset – why? The yacht has Mastervolt Dakar 12/1500 charger/inverter. It can charge battery from shore power and genset. Engine alternator is charging battery through Mastervolt Alpha Plus and is bypassing the shunt. That way Power Management unit has no idea about a real status of batteries.
BTW: During test sails the alternator burnt out and was replaced with a new one.

Another task: rudder needs some attention (this is what I think, I need your opinion). This yacht has the hydraulic steering system and autopilot from CourseMaster. On the mooring, when the yacht is getting a side wave (e.g. from a passing powerboat) the ruder is making a “knocking sound".
Mike – you have mentioned to check the lower “rudder bush, nylon bush”. Is it a big job to replace it? Where I could get a rudder bush itself?


Greg

[Moody Mike]

Good to hear you got it . Out to dinner will reply when I'm back onboard shortly[emoji482][emoji3][emoji106]

[gavron]

[Moody Mike]

Ok the rudder bush mine has a solid SS block under the skeg in front of the rudder. It is held in by 2 bolts . Undo the bolts the block comes off and you can see the bush & the lower rudder hinge pin. If its original it will be made of nylon i had some difficulty removing it, think i cut it with a hack saw . I had a new bush turned up out of hard composite plastic stuff. Its what the shipwright guys recommended nylon is no longer used as it grows with age apparently. Cost me $50 for the bush fitted it myself easy job. My rudder moves around a lot at anchor so I tighten the friction at the pedestal when on the pick and I usually forget to release before i take off the next morning. This has lead to some interesting situations lol.
You may notice your Carbineer moves around a lot (yaws) on the pick while other boats sit nice & straight into current or wind. I sometimes put a bit of mizzen sail out to ease this .

The power board , you need shore power ,generator power & battery power. My boat doesn't have any inverter I don't really need one as my tv is 12 volt appliances are 240 volt. I run the generator for the electric stove at the same time the batteries charge & my eutectic fridge freezer pulls down. My extra danfoss fridge runs off 12 volt.

I just fitted a remote starter & timer switch that can start the generator automatically while Im off the boat. This is so if we are on the pick & go ashore for a day the fridge wont defrost. Works very well & has built in pre heat & warm up before turning on the 240v. Also has fault shut down & if it fails to start will try 3 times then give up.

I have also removed the shore / generator / off switch on the board & fitted an automatic change over switch so if i plug into shore power it automatically switches to shore. If I start the generator while on shore power it switches to generator with a 1/2 second drop .

I only have one big battery charger a Neptune thats fully automatic runs of shore or generator all automatic it runs all 3 battery systems house, main start & Gen start. It monitors & switches on & off each system as required. I also have the main engine alternator that is 85 amp , this also charges the main & house but I have not investigated how its done yet but it works well.
Compared to my Moody 54 this is a very simple electrical system the moody had 240,110,12 & 24 volt a nightmare .

[Moody Mike]

The big Neptune charger under Port side salon seat.

[Moody Mike]

Any other Carbineer / Carberneer owners out there ? I know of at least 2 in Hobart.

[gavron]

Last week I saw one Carbineer 46 "VOYAGER" on the mooring on Parramatta River, near Hunters Hill. Black masts, black strip all around hull. Originally from Melbourne, but now with NSW registration.

[Moody Mike]

I think Voyager belonged to one of the Lasky Bros originally .

[Moody Mike]

Here is an older version with the dog house currently for sale in Malaysia.