Baba, Panda, Tashiba 40's

[bmiller]

Are these basicly the same boat? Are they all built by Ta Shing? From what I've seen they have a similar interior layout. Is this something like a GM, Chevy, Buick kind of situation.

[Paul L]

There is a good info on these boats in Bob Perry's book
Yacht Design According to Perry: My Boats and What Shaped Them

If you are interested boats designed by Perry, it is a very worthwhile $30

Paul L

[pcorm00]

The Baba, Panda, Tashiba 40's are all the same except for some minor cosmetic changes. The Baba was the original design and the most expensive to build. The others may have less teak down below, fewer port lights, etc. All are absolutely wonderful, comfortable boats. They all have a comfort ratio above 41.5. The displacement is 29,000 lbs, empty. They have a LWL of 34, giving it a design speed of 7.8 kts. It's a pleasure to sail, difficult to back down in tight quarters, unless you practice. It has beautiful lines, a whale's belly bottom and loves to sail in storms. The interior looks like a Russian tea room. This boat is designed for circumnavigation, not racing. If you want a safe, reliable, comfortable cruising sailboat, you cannot beat the Baba 40. Mine has the upgraded tanks; teak decks removed, and a new Beta 40 (Kubota) diesel engine. A Max-Prop is also recommended, as it will give you an extra knot of speed under the same condtions without a Max-Prop. I will soon be installing a Hydrovane autopilot and an EchoTec watermaker. Also, at least 1000 watts of solar panels is recommended.

[Jim Cate]

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Where do you propose to put such a large solar array on those designs?

Jim

[pcorm00]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

^^^^
Where do you propose to put such a large solar array on those designs?

Jim

Two flexible (zip in) solar panels on the bimini top. You could have a solar panel arch constructed that will hold, at least, four panels. You could attach one panel to each of the stern cockpit rails. That could give you a maximum of 8 panels. If each panel was 200 watts, you would have a total of 1,600 watts.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by pcorm00

Two flexible (zip in) solar panels on the bimini top. You could have a solar panel arch constructed that will hold, at least, four panels. You could attach one panel to each of the stern cockpit rails. That could give you a maximum of 8 panels. If each panel was 200 watts, you would have a total of 1,600 watts.

And what a travesty that would be! A solar arch of that size, if even possible on the canoe stern, would overhang both fore and aft and athwartships and interfere with the proposed bimini.

To spoil the appearance of such a handsome vessel and to add tremendous windage aft would border on the criminal. Bob P, I suspect would decline to take calls from you and your friends would talk behind your back should you do so.

But, your boat, your choices.

Jim

[pcorm00]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

And what a travesty that would be! A solar arch of that size, if even possible on the canoe stern, would overhang both fore and aft and athwartships and interfere with the proposed bimini.

To spoil the appearance of such a handsome vessel and to add tremendous windage aft would border on the criminal. Bob P, I suspect would decline to take calls from you and your friends would talk behind your back should you do so.

But, your boat, your choices.

Jim

I just have the zip-in flexible solar panels on my bimini. I have an arch. I can't afford it. I am considering attaching rigid solar panels on my stern railings that can double as a wind break when there is no wind. They would just fold down. They wouldn't detract from the good looks of the boat that much. A wind generator and a hydrogenerator will each augment the solar panel, especially when there is no sun. https://hydrovane.com/watt-sea-hydrogenerator/

[Ded reckoner]

Both the wind generator and hydrogenerator have exponential outputs for wind speed. We have a D-400 wind generator which is arguably the best (3A at 10kts wind, 7.5 @ 15, 17.5 @ 20, 25 @ 25); they will spin when we see many other brands are still. I have a single wind generator and wish I had two. The performance is similar with a hydrogenerator (for which you can get a thru-hull version now; the towed version is just a fishing lure--don't get it); you need to go fast to get any output. For a relatively short LWL boat, get the oversized hydro gen prop to get a little better output. The hydro gen is only good when you're underway, but then you will love it.