Bestevaer 49ST

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Gorgeosity!!

I'm glad I'm not choosing between those two looks -- each extremely appealing in its own way. Die Qual der Wahl!

When is the launch date?

I drooled looking at that as well. The hassle of maintenance even slipped my mind for just a moment . No second thoughts though. We are making up for it with our Bubinga interior .

Launch is predicted to be around November.

SWL

[JPA Cate]

I think you've made a wise decision, guys. Plus, strangers will not expect the insides to be beautiful. They will admire the utilitarian nature for all it's values, and then be amazed at the fitout. Too right.

Ann

[a64pilot]

External wood is beautiful



On someone else's boat

[DeepFrz]

Yes both beautiful in their own way. The teak deck on someone else's boat. I would choose yours. But, I don't see the mast step. Am I missing something?

[Pelagic]

You will love those high bulwarks. One of my favorite features on Stargazer.

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by DeepFrz

.....But, I don't see the mast step. Am I missing something?

The mast is deck stepped. The reinforcing is all below deck (from memory 20mm thick). Plus we have a beefy anodised mast support resting on the keel in the owners' cabin. Only problem is that it is a little too thick to use for pole dancing (see below).

The mast base has not been installed yet. Selden make a neat one, but unfortunately it is not available for larger mast cross sections like ours, so KM will be fabricating one. This is an image from Selden's catalogue:

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...svpb1ebhp.jpeg


The cables will pass down our "swan neck".

SWL

[redsky49]

"The mast base has not been installed yet. Selden make a neat one, but unfortunately it is not available for larger mast cross sections like ours, so KM will be fabricating one. This is an image from Selden's catalogue:"

Hallberg Rassy masts are deck stepped, aren't they? Are they not using a Selden mast step, for vessels even larger than yours?

And the compression post for the mast, are you leaving it all be-ribboned, or will you enclose it some way?

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by redsky49

Hallberg Rassy masts are deck stepped, aren't they? Are they not using a Selden mast step, for vessels even larger than yours?

And the compression post for the mast, are you leaving it all be-ribboned, or will you enclose it some way?

I thought the "ribbon" had been been put on rather artistically , but under all the layers is an anodised surface that will be unveiled at the last moment.

Good point about HR masts. I have just checked to try and see what they do. With the two largest boats they have produced, the 64 is keel stepped and the 62 deck stepped. The 62 had in mast furling though, which changes the mast section and base.

SWL

[mrm]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

[...] Some features seen above:
Recess for the Refleks chimney
SWL

Absolutely gorgeous! Just one thing.. won't water pool in this chimney recess?

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by weavis

It is an amazing mix of design that is a good balance... Love it..

It will be quick too, look its got one of those Formula One aerofoil wings on the back

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by mrm

Absolutely gorgeous! Just one thing.. won't water pool in this chimney recess?

When the Refleks stove is in use there is a chimney attached, and when not, there is a cap that seals the opening.

A lot of KM boats have these drips diesel heaters installed, so hopefully they have the details right by now .

SWL

[mrm]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

When the Refleks stove is in use there is a chimney attached, and when not, there is a cap that seals the opening.

Ah, there is a cap. OK, I was curious, as you went for other design choices to minimize water pooling/leaks (raised hatches etc.).

A lot of KM boats have these drips diesel heaters installed, so hopefully they have the details right by now .

SWL

Hopefully..

She will be one tough beauty..

[Caieta]

Hi! Although I've been reading this forum for a few years, this is my first post. I have just binge-read through this entire odyssey (I guess 1257 posts count as an odyssey ) and felt I needed to tell you how awe-inspiring this whole build is. She is truly beautiful! The myriad of small, attentive touches and changes you've made to the design are really impressive. Fantastic job and I can't wait to see pictures of her in the water! (and of the finished interior!)

You've also provided me with an insane amount of information to design my own dream boat. The only things I would change (adding this mostly because it's just too sappy to compliment you endlessly ), would be to replace the diesel with an electric engine with a folding/feathering prop (to charge batteries while sailing), adding a very heavy duty generator, no arch for solar but flexible panels everywhere on the pilothouse, no propane but induction, no foam insulation but aerogel panels and I'd have specified cork decking all-round (I had a previous life as an oil rig worker and I vividly remember burning my feet the one time I went barefoot on the aluminium deck of the supply boat ).

Thank you so much for sharing this & I hope to see some more pics soon!

[Seaworthy Lass]

Originally Posted by Caieta

Hi! Although I've been reading this forum for a few years, this is my first post. I have just binge-read through this entire odyssey and felt I needed to tell you how awe-inspiring this whole build is. She is truly beautiful! The myriad of small, attentive touches and changes you've made to the design are really impressive. Fantastic job and I can't wait to see pictures of her in the water! (and of the finished interior!)

You've also provided me with an insane amount of information to design my own dream boat. The only things I would change (adding this mostly because it's just too sappy to compliment you endlessly ), would be to replace the diesel with an electric engine with a folding/feathering prop (to charge batteries while sailing), adding a very heavy duty generator, no arch for solar but flexible panels everywhere on the pilothouse, no propane but induction, no foam insulation but aerogel panels and I'd have specified cork decking all-round (I had a previous life as an oil rig worker and I vividly remember burning my feet the one time I went barefoot on the aluminium deck ).

Thank you so much for sharing this & I hope to see some more pics soon!

Hi Caieta
Welcome as a new member .

Thanks for the feedback. I am primarily posting because I thought this thread may be of interest to others (I am usually uncomfortable discussing possessions and still feel awkward doing this), so it is lovely to hear the posts have been enjoyed and found to be useful.

The wonderful thing about a custom build is that it can be built however suits you personally. There is no such thing as an "ideal boat". Everyone's needs and desires are different. Also, almost everything specified has pros and cons and these can be weighed up very differently. For us some of these decisions have been easy, some we have agonised over, even with prior experience with an aluminium boat roughly the same size.

Anyway, in response to your request for more pics, here is one of our 60 litre stainless steel day water tank. A day water tank is unusual (in fact I have never heard of one before in a yacht). The output of the water maker will go directly to this day tank and then spill over into the larger main water tanks.

There is a separate tap at the kitchen sink that just supplies water from this tank for drinking. Water maker water is always great tasting and this water has has only been in contact with food grade hoses and stainless steel. The small volume ensures the water is changed over frequently and also means the tank can be removed for easy cleaning.

A second advantage is that this water is chlorine free even if town water has been added to main tanks. Chlorine damages water maker membranes so if it used for rinsing the water maker you need a well functioning carbon filter. Rinsing the water maker with product water adds an extra layer of protection for the membrane.

SWL

[Caieta]

Originally Posted by Seaworthy Lass

Hi Caieta
Welcome as a new member .

Thanks for the feedback. I am primarily posting because I thought this thread may be of interest to others (I am usually uncomfortable discussing possessions and still feel awkward doing this), so it is lovely to hear the posts have been enjoyed and found to be useful.

The wonderful thing about a custom build is that it can be built however suits you personally. There is no such thing as an "ideal boat". Everyone's needs and desires are different. Also, almost everything specified has pros and cons and these can be weighed up very differently. For us some of these decisions have been easy, some we have agonised over, even with prior experience with an aluminium boat roughly the same size.

Anyway, in response to your request for more pics, here is one of our 60 litre stainless steel day water tank. A day water tank is unusual (in fact I have never heard of one before in a yacht). The output of the water maker will go directly to this day tank and then spill over into the larger main water tanks.

There is a separate tap at the kitchen sink that just supplies water from this tank for drinking. Water maker water is always great tasting and this water has has only been in contact with food grade hoses and stainless steel. The small volume ensures the water is changed over frequently and also means the tank can be removed for easy cleaning.

A second advantage is that this water is chlorine free even if town water has been added to main tanks. Chlorine damages water maker membranes so if it used for rinsing the water maker you need a well functioning carbon filter. Rinsing the water maker with product water adds an extra layer of protection for the membrane.

SWL

Thank you for your -very- quick reply!
I fully agree with you that most of the decisions in this type of endeavour are entirely subjective, I was just adding my 2c! Also a lot of the changes I would make were not really available when you started building. I'm very impressed at how you managed and thought through the whole process. Details like the day water tank you spec'ed are genius.
Hope that when I'm ready to take the plunge, I'll be half as good.