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Morequestions · 24-12-2021, 17:20

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Originally Posted by wyb2

I would just say that sometimes the whole con is just getting you to reply in the first place. Then your FB account or phone # just goes into database flagged as ‘good’. They have bots posting these ads everyday all over the world, when the database hits 500,000 entries or whatever, they just sell it to some actual scam outfit that will try to contact you months or years later on some unrelated premise, after you’ve long forgotten about this ad. Buying a database of ‘good’ accounts saves them tons of wasted time.

It’s always possible it’s legit, it just fits a scam format I’ve seen elsewhere.

Like I say anything is possible but how would you know without trying? I mean if you seen a boat you like you must make the first move.
Many people list items for sale for $1, they do that to get you to look at it it will show up near the beginning of the lisitngs. Sometimes I would like to tell them that their product is worth way more then $1 I could not possibly pay you only a dollar I would feel like I'm taking advantage. But of course its only to get a spot in listings, thats not the real price they would part with it for. I don't like it when they do that I much prefer them state a offering price. Often people don't list a price, they wait for offers. I wouldn't call it a con just because they say its $12345 . Like I say its an older boat, if you have an idea what its worth and want it, make them an offer. Everything beyond the offer should be done in person. Maybe pay a broker or representative of some kind to close the sale for you. Like closing on a house they do a title search, make sure no liens and they are actually the owners. Way less scary. I been in a garage at night with 4 guys paying me near 30K in 50's and 100's. Its a bit nerve racking. The kind of people you worry about are probably not going to let you close to them. They want payment sent first. I don't worry about my name and info being sold by someone on FB or craigslist. I get robo calls every week I bet everyone does. ( by the way did you know your auto warranty is about to expire?)I worry about WalGreens liquor store asking for my ID then scanning it into their system. There maybe a lot of info on your Drivers License magnetic strip on the back. Why would they do that I wonder?

?? What do you folks do to protect yourself when you buy a used boat?
Do it in a State office like the DMV? I see boats for sale offshore sometimes, the Caribbean islands, Bahamas, Panama, how would you handle that safely?

CaptWho · 24-12-2021, 21:29

40' Ackerman Newporter 40
For some reason, I just love the lines on these vessels. The only model that I can find that they built was the 40 and that's a little smaller than I want. If I could find one around 45' and at the right price like this one, I'd snap it up.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/94161

Celestialsailor · 25-12-2021, 00:13

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Originally Posted by CaptWho

40' Ackerman Newporter 40
For some reason, I just love the lines on these vessels. The only model that I can find that they built was the 40 and that's a little smaller than I want. If I could find one around 45' and at the right price like this one, I'd snap it up.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/94161

My friend had one and lived aboard for years and years. They do have their problems with F/G over ply.

**JoeRobertJr** · 25-12-2021, 06:39

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Originally Posted by CaptWho

40' Ackerman Newporter 40
For some reason, I just love the lines on these vessels. The only model that I can find that they built was the 40 and that's a little smaller than I want. If I could find one around 45' and at the right price like this one, I'd snap it up.

Capt. Who,
I'd like to probe you a little about your 40' vs 45' comment, because I am wrestling with that decision myself. For context, one of my sailing instructors is selling his 1978 Morgan 45 ketch in Maryland. I have been looking mostly at Pearson 424s and Morgan Out Island 41s, mostly for seasonal cruising between the US east coast and the Caribbean. The Morgan 45 is in great shape, but I was concerned about it being too much boat for just my wife and I. What has you wanting a bit larger than 40'?

**hpeer** · 25-12-2021, 07:24

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Originally Posted by CaptWho

40' Ackerman Newporter 40
For some reason, I just love the lines on these vessels. The only model that I can find that they built was the 40 and that's a little smaller than I want. If I could find one around 45' and at the right price like this one, I'd snap it up.

https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/94161

You are looking at the specs wrong, LOD is a very poor descriptor of size.

She is 24,000 advertised displacement, that is a about the size/displacement of many modern 45’LOD boats.

120 gallons of fuel and 120 gallons of water.

If you have a hankering I would suggest you go take a look. My bet is you will be very surprised at the interior volume and storage space.

BTW, if I didn’t have 2 boats now I would be ahead of you in line. Great looking cool water boat.

PS:
Check this site.

http://newporterworks.ning.com/m?id=...lePage%3A23512

gonesail · 25-12-2021, 07:36

27' 1980 Cape Dory - 2500.00 in St. Petersburg, FL.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/boa...424724724.html

Bowdrie · 25-12-2021, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

They do have their problems with F/G over ply.

Worked on a couple of them back in the day.
A large portion of their FG/plywood problems can be directly traced to the use of Polyester resin.
Not only was Polyester used for the FG, but it was also used as a "glue" for much of the structural laminations.
Not so ideal, given what we know today.

CaptWho · 25-12-2021, 12:29

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Originally Posted by JoeRobertJr

The Morgan 45 is in great shape, but I was concerned about it being too much boat for just my wife and I. What has you wanting a bit larger than 40'?

I'm planning on living aboard and hopefully having a partner to sail with, but I want to be able to singlehand if necessary. I do a lot of work from home and want to have room to do that without interfering with living space. I also want to have room for "stuff". I've done a fair amount of singlehanding in the past and I know that people singlehand much larger boats than 45'. A friend and his wife used to sail a 50'+ Shannon ketch. A lot of the ease of handling is based around how the boat is rigged and most boats can be rigged to short or singlehanded although I suppose there are some exceptions. (Somehow, I think I'm going to get shredded here... LOL)

CaptWho · 25-12-2021, 12:35

40 foot teak cutter ketch - $21,200 (Norfolk VA)

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/boa/d...424900494.html

Bowdrie · 25-12-2021, 12:46

Jeepers, another one of those Cutter Ketches, they pop-up from time to time.
Oh, I see it has two masts, so it's not a Cutter.
Probably a Double headsail Ketch, yeah, that must be it.

CaptWho · 25-12-2021, 12:54

Custom Built to Race & Win - $19,000 (Channel Islands CA)
Seems like I've also posted this one at some point, but I can't find it. If so, apologies for the dup.

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https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d...424903185.html

CaptWho · 25-12-2021, 13:04

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Originally Posted by Bowdrie

Jeepers, another one of those Cutter Ketches, they pop-up from time to time.
Oh, I see it has two masts, so it's not a Cutter.
Probably a Double headsail Ketch, yeah, that must be it.

Before your response, I thought that anything with a double headsail was by nature, a cutter. Your response got me thinking and I did a quick search.
https://olympic.craigslist.org/boa/d...424903185.html
With the angle of that second stay, it almost looks like it's a "slutter".