Centurien 47

[Ericson38]

Originally Posted by Cheechako

I'm not sure, but a message to Bob Perry... he would know. I know when the 40 became the 41 it changed for sure. I'm guessing mid to late 90's. Or a call to Passport Yachts in Annapolis would find out.
https://books.google.com/books?id=RQ...ild%3F&f=false

TaShing didn't build any Passports. Here's a link to their previous models-

TA SHING YACHT BUILDING CO., LTD.

[Cheechako]

Interesting, not what I understood. That site doesn't say they did, but not sure it lists everything they built either. I could swear Tom, the owner of Passport Yachts told me they did, but that's been years.

[Cheechako]

Originally Posted by Ericson38

TaShing didn't build any Passports. Here's a link to their previous models-

TA SHING YACHT BUILDING CO., LTD.

You sir are correct, they were built in the King Dragon Yard along with the Hans Christians. "the boat was duly penned and then built by King Dragon boatyard in Taiwan"

[outbound_308]

Ok to take this another direction what modern boats would be well suited? Jeanue? Hanse?


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[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by outbound_308

Ok to take this another direction what modern boats would be well suited? Jeanue? Hanse?


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[daletournier]

Originally Posted by outbound_308

Ok to take this another direction what modern boats would be well suited? Jeanue? Hanse?


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Im considering purchasing another boat. I'm starting to head towards more modern designs. From what I see the Hanse particularly the e models seem better built. Its hard to decipher fact from fiction when discussing modern boat quality, alot of very uninformed, uneducated opinions seem to get in the way of more knowledgeable or experienced opinions.

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[outbound_308]

Well usually when I mention the older traditional boats. Someone chimes in with a modern blue water cruiser can be had for the same price, but rarely specify make or model.


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[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by outbound_308

Well usually when I mention the older traditional boats. Someone chimes in with a modern blue water cruiser can be had for the same price, but rarely specify make or model.


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I apologise...

I've only been aboard a few Bennys, Jennys and Hanses.... best I can say is that I would pass on the Hanses, some of the older Bs and Js seem ok but there is such a variety of designs out there made by them.

The almost new Benny Oceanus 57 I went to sea on recently was a POVES in my humble......

[outbound_308]

So people recommend going newer, then only recommend what will not do the job. Not very helpful, what models could I look at?



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[El Pinguino]

Oh... it makes life easier if you discard the unsuitable...


MarkJ likes his Beneteau 393

https://www.boats.com/reviews/powerful-passagemaker/

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/Sai...r/Beneteau/393

maybe start a new thread to attract B and J owners' views?

[outbound_308]

I don't think I want a beneteau thread. I'm sure Peale that have them love them . Basically the types of questions are still yacht choice. I lean toward older proven world cruisers. People have made the statement you would be better off not buying a 20+ year old boat. So. For example 1990 pacific sea craft vs 2005 beneteau 393. Not pearsonel preference or based on looks. Which one will do the best job for the stated task. Things like reliability, safety, comfort, sailing performance are what I care abt at this point.


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[El Pinguino]

There are quite a number... in fact a substantial percentage of the whole .... of Chilean flag Jeanneaus ( around the 40 foot mark) in Pto Montt.... most if not all have been delivered on their own bottoms from the US to southern Chile.

So the 'production boat' bashers can stow that where ever.

I think 10 year old - mas o menos - is a good age to buy a boat at.... a bit like buying a 4 year old car... some one else has sucked down the depreciation and the boat should still be in reasonable order . Thats my theory anyway.

As I say... I can't help with the virtues of the various models.

[robert sailor]

Most everyone loves the boat they own, who among us wants to admit to making a bad buying choice so take some of these references from owners as having a moderate amount of bias in them.
There are many ways to do your due diligence but it does take some work. A good source would be owners that have sold their boats after some years of sailing and maintaining them.

[outbound_308]

Yeah I watched the sail vicarious stuff, kind of an example of that. Spent most of their time restoring an old boat over the course of a few years, then gave up on the dream. Honestly just think they didn't pick the right boat for their purpose.


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[outbound_308]

So 2008 beneteau 393, Or 1990 pacific seacraft 37


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