Com Pac 27, opinions please

[Belle25]

Originally Posted by bmiller

In my opinion yes it would be a safe first sailboat.
Maybe not the best to learn on but definitely safe.
Why so big for a first boat? Something smaller with a tiller might be a better learning platform.

Not a good sailboat to learn? I guess you are right. It could be ordered with tiller, but brand new boat as the first boat, not a good idea, I think.

[bmiller]

Originally Posted by Belle25

Not a good sailboat to learn? I guess you are right. It could be ordered with tiller, but brand new boat as the first boat, not a good idea, I think.

There are far too many variables to say yes or no and the question is lost in this old thread about a specific boat.

I'd suggest starting a new thread, introduce yourself, what you want to accomplish sailing, where you will sail, what if any experience you have and of course budget.

Maybe even wander over to SA!

If that is you in the avatar there will be countless opportunities to sail on OPBs.

Best of luck to you and stay safe.

[Belle25]

Originally Posted by bmiller

I'd suggest starting a new thread, introduce yourself, what you want to accomplish sailing, where you will sail, what if any experience you have and of course budget.

Maybe even wander over to SA!

If that is you in the avatar there will be countless opportunities to sail on OPBs.

Aw. What is SA and OPB?

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by Belle25

Aw. What is SA and OPB?

Sailing Anarchy (racing oriented, more testerone fueled site) and Other Peoples Boats.

My suggestion, as usual, is dont buy a boat. Newbies are always eager to rush out and buy a boat. You dont need to own a boat to learn to sail. Get some training/experience and sail on OPB. Then, after a few years, you will know more about boats and what you want in one.

Also after a few years you should have enough invitations to crew that you dont really need to buy a boat.

Example: I was already a semi-pro sailor before I bought my first cruising boat. Owning it did not increase my sailing skills at all, but boy did I learn a lot about boat maintenance and cost of ownership!!![emoji857][emoji857][emoji857]

Now, later in life, after having spent enough on boat maintenace to send a few kids to college, Im about to sell my current boat and return to sailing on OPB's without the hassle and cost of maintenance. [emoji3060][emoji2][emoji3060]

[Belle25]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

My suggestion, as usual, is dont buy a boat. Newbies are always eager to rush out and buy a boat. You dont need to own a boat to learn to sail. Get some training/experience and sail on OPB. Then, after a few years, you will know more about boats and what you want in one.

Also after a few years you should have enough invitations to crew that you dont really need to buy a boat.

Example: I was already a semi-pro sailor before I bought my first cruising boat. Owning it did not increase my sailing skills at all, but boy did I learn a lot about boat maintenance and cost of ownership!!![emoji857][emoji857][emoji857]

Now, later in life, after having spent enough on boat maintenace to send a few kids to college, Im about to sell my current boat and return to sailing on OPB's without the hassle and cost of maintenance. [emoji3060][emoji2][emoji3060]

You know I had heard a saying about that before; it goes like this, "The perfect boat is somebody else's boat."
The problem is I am very antisocial. I don't do well in crews. I can never be a team player. Especially, in a racing environment, I'll be hated. Social functions give me tension headaches. I need serenity.
A used first sailboat won't be that much of a financial burden, and I can single handedly sail it in my own schedule. Where I live, I can dock a boat under 30ft for $200 a year. Nothing fancy, just a dock that you can tie your boat. I don't know how it works or the details. I just have to figure out the depth but I think I'll be fine. how lovely it would be if I could have access to a sailboat whenever I wish...

[ohdrinkboy]

It could be a great or terrible first boat.....depends on how you want to use it. I have a Seaward 22. It is a similar, but smaller design. Doesn't go to weather great, but is comfortable to sail. Great for coastal sailing. Terrible for racing. Doesn't go to weather well, but crack off a bit and she sails well.

The design sails better flat. Reef early and keep the rail out of the water.

[bmiller]

Originally Posted by Belle25

Aw. What is SA and OPB?

Sailing anarchy, another forum, not for the thin skinned but some very experienced sailors.

Other peoples boats

[belizesailor]

Originally Posted by Belle25

You know I had heard a saying about that before; it goes like this, "The perfect boat is somebody else's boat."

The problem is I am very antisocial. I don't do well in crews. I can never be a team player. Especially, in a racing environment, I'll be hated. Social functions give me tension headaches. I need serenity.

A used first sailboat won't be that much of a financial burden, and I can single handedly sail it in my own schedule. Where I live, I can dock a boat under 30ft for $200 a year. Nothing fancy, just a dock that you can tie your boat. I don't know how it works or the details. I just have to figure out the depth but I think I'll be fine. how lovely it would be if I could have access to a sailboat whenever I wish...

Maybe in your case that is a better solution.

[AKA-None]

I can’t believe that sending a newbi over to SA is a good idea

[Belle25]

Well, I think a Catalina 25 will be the one, but first some classes, hopefully in a 22 version. I opened a new thread on the issue. thanks

[Bdeana]

Originally Posted by bmiller

I've posted this on a few other sites without any luck, maybe you fine folks have some knowledge of these boats. There is a 27 on a trailer near here. How do they sail, handle heavy weather, quality of build, headroom, would you buy one? Only 6000 lbs and 3'6" draft, do they get tossed around much? Thanks, Bill

Ok Bmiller, it’s 2022 and I would like to know the rest of the story. You bought the com-pac 27 and you hauled all over the place. Where did you get the trailer? Where did you sail the boat? Did you ever take it off shore? I’m actually considering buying a 2004 com-pac 27/3 that is currently moored in the SanJuans. I’m wondering what you think of the boat?

[Bdeana]

So did you ever buy a Com-pac 27/3?

[Bdeana]

Originally Posted by bmiller

Too funny, I got an email notification that this 12 year old thread was revived somehow.
I guess the term "trailerable" is subjective. I bought this boat and trailered from Colorado to Mexico, Washington and southern California. As well as seasonally to and from the reservoir she spent summers on.
Then I stupidly got bigger boat fever and sold it. What an idiot.
If you want I have tons of photos of our "trailersailer" days.

Love to see any photos. How long did you have it? Where did you sail in Washington? Ever take it off shore? What did it take to step the mast?

[bmiller]

Originally Posted by Bdeana

Ok Bmiller, it’s 2022 and I would like to know the rest of the story. You bought the com-pac 27 and you hauled all over the place. Where did you get the trailer? Where did you sail the boat? Did you ever take it off shore? I’m actually considering buying a 2004 com-pac 27/3 that is currently moored in the SanJuans. I’m wondering what you think of the boat?

Sorry for the delayed response, kind of busy right now.
The boat came with the trailer.
It spent summer months on a mooring at Dillon res in Summit County Colorado.
I trailered it to Southern California, San Carlos Mexico and the Pacific Northwest.
As far as "offshore" we sailed across the Sea of Cortez from San Carlos to Santa Rosalia and back.
Stepping the mast was a process, but it had a hinged mast step. A tutorial would take some time to write.
Loved the boat, if it suits your needs buy it. Check the bilge for rotted plywood, that's how the formed it in the poured concrete ballast. Relatively easy fix.
Only reason I sold was due to big boat fever, biggest mistake I ever made.
If you have any specific questions I'll try to get to them right away.
Good luck in the boat search.

Here's links to my photo site.

https://bmiller1959.smugmug.com/Sail...g/Mexico-2008/
https://bmiller1959.smugmug.com/Sail...-Islands-2008/
https://bmiller1959.smugmug.com/Sail...ating/Com-Pac/
https://bmiller1959.smugmug.com/Sail...a-Island-2007/

[seaductive]

I have one. It’s a wonderful live aboard for something that’s under 30 feet. Does not sail like a total pig, is good quality construction and is beautiful to look at. The folks at Hutchins (the maker of Com-Pac) is a phone call away if you need to source new parts or have a specific question. There is also an owners forum; cpyoa.org

Good luck!