Composting head vs classic head

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Davy J

I’ll just add, you think burying it is fine, what do you think the government does with the waste in dumpsters? In most instances, they bury it.....

not quite correct. In my area they dig out the soil in the area for the landfill lay down an impermeable membrane then start adding the refuse mixed with the dirt., when it is considered full they may in a network of perforated pvc pipe another impermeable membrane then a foot or so of soil seeding with grass . The pipes are connected to a manifold that collects the methane gas which is then used to run a small gas turbine power plant .

So by throwing my solids in the dumpster they will continue to produce methane as it decomposes and helping to protect the environment .
In other areas they use incinerators to dispose of the waste and heat water to steam to run the attached power plants .

[DanCan]

Disposal, from nature head website:

“Full-time users have some special circumstances to deal with. Full-time use does not allow enough time for the solid wastes to compost. The most recent waste, although mixed with the already composted material, will not be decomposed. This also means that the fecal bacteria (present in fresh human wastes) may still be present. We recommend taking precautions such as the use of gloves if you may come into contact with waste material. It is advisable that you delay emptying the solid waste for 6-8 hours after the last use.”

https://natureshead.net/user_guide/

And I guess, urine goes overboard if you are at anchor....?

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by DanCan

Disposal, from nature head website:

“Full-time users have some special circumstances to deal with. Full-time use does not allow enough time for the solid wastes to compost. The most recent waste, although mixed with the already composted material, will not be decomposed. This also means that the fecal bacteria (present in fresh human wastes) may still be present. We recommend taking precautions such as the use of gloves if you may come into contact with waste material. It is advisable that you delay emptying the solid waste for 6-8 hours after the last use.”

https://natureshead.net/user_guide/

Sounds reasonable. I try and let the head sit for as long as possible, just to give it time to process the most recent additions.

Originally Posted by DanCan

And I guess, urine goes overboard if you are at anchor....?

Yup ... much like some of us might pee over the side .

[DanCan]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Sounds reasonable. I try and let the head sit for as long as possible, just to give it time to process the most recent additions.



Yup ... much like some of us might pee over the side .

It makes sense.
Last time I was in Fort Lauderdale enjoying a bit of beach time. A friend of mine asked “how many people are you guessing here are in the water right now? We guessed a couple of hundred at least around in that area, maybe several hundred on the sand. All was fine until he asked again, where do you think they all pee??
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[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by DanCan

It makes sense.
Last time I was in Fort Lauderdale enjoying a bit of beach time. A friend of mine asked “how many people are you guessing here are in the water right now? We guessed a couple of hundred at least around in that area, maybe several hundred on the sand. All was fine until he asked again, where do you think they all pee??
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I never worry about open water sources. But some bizarre researcher did a study of indoor pools recently. They found the average pool had 10s, or perhaps 100s of gallons of pee in it.

Let that one sink in .

[smj]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

I never worry about open water sources. But some bizarre researcher did a study of indoor pools recently. They found the average pool had 10s, or perhaps 100s of gallons of pee in it.

Let that one sink in .

No wonder the pools always warm

[smbdyiam2]

wondering
Medical uses of ultraviolet light include disinfection and sterilization without the use of chemicals. Ultraviolet light is also used to destroy bacteria and viruses. In the year 1877, two English scientists named Downes and Blunt, discovered that bacteria died in the sunlight. In 1892, Marshall Ward demonstrated that the bactericidal actions were from the ultraviolet part of the spectrum. Ultraviolet light is also used as a safe medical treatment. It stimulates the immune system and has shown good results in killing blood borne pathogens.
https://www.amazon.com/Bohisen-Steri...=ultraviolet%2

If light shone into composting bucket could make sterile after composted? or just kill bacteria and stop composting. Was thinking about just before emptying.
Thoughts ? Maybe used on this virus?

[Minggat]

So much focus on composting, which is ok, but not necessarily the best target for boaters.

We no longer talk about “life preservers”. They don’t alway preserve life. Now we say Personal Flotation Devices (PFD).

People get a mindset from what we label things. Life rafts sell themselves just by what they are called. But if inappropriately used, they can become counterproductive. I’m not suggesting that we relabel them death rafts, but rather deal with the mindset trap.

Point is, “composting toilet” doesn’t require you to target compost production.
Think desiccating toilet and see if life gets easier dealing with these things.

[Davy J]

not quite correct. In my area they dig out the soil in the area for the landfill lay down an impermeable membrane then start adding the refuse mixed with the dirt.,

That’s a very fancy way to say they buried it.......

[smbdyiam2]

Originally Posted by Minggat

So much focus on composting, which is ok, but not necessarily the best target for boaters.

We no longer talk about “life preservers”. They don’t alway preserve life. Now we say Personal Flotation Devices (PFD).

People get a mindset from what we label things. Life rafts sell themselves just by what they are called. But if inappropriately used, they can become counterproductive. I’m not suggesting that we relabel them death rafts, but rather deal with the mindset trap.

Point is, “composting toilet” doesn’t require you to target compost production.
Think desiccating toilet and see if life gets easier dealing with these things.

O kay but when I stepped into sporting goods at Walmart and asked about personal floatation devices. Was told that they had Kayaks in garden shop now.
When I said desiccating toilet to neighbor he asked if it was sold in plumbing. Makes me wonder why dad called them boxing gloves and they looked like Mittens?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Davy J

That’s a very fancy way to say they buried it.......

no its called a bioreactor

[Minggat]

Originally Posted by smbdyiam2

O kay but when I stepped into sporting goods at Walmart and asked about personal floatation devices. Was told that they had Kayaks in garden shop now.
When I said desiccating toilet to neighbor he asked if it was sold in plumbing. Makes me wonder why dad called them boxing gloves and they looked like Mittens?

LOL!! Great stuff!

A good chuckle on my Sunday morning here.

My too serious approach noted. Thanks

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Minggat

...Point is, “composting toilet” doesn’t require you to target compost production.
Think desiccating toilet and see if life gets easier dealing with these things.

I actually wish they didn't market these as composting toilets. They do begin the composting process, and maybe for some who use theirs only very infrequently and for short periods, they might actually compost. But for most users the main function of these heads is liquid/solid separation, and drying out -- desiccating.

But "desiccating" doesn't have the same ring to it I suppose.

Point is, whatever you call it they just work, and work well.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

I actually wish they didn't market these as composting toilets. They do begin the composting process, and maybe for some who use theirs only very infrequently and for short periods, they might actually compost. But for most users the main function of these heads is liquid/solid separation, and drying out -- desiccating.

But "desiccating" doesn't have the same ring to it I suppose.

Point is, whatever you call it they just work, and work well.

except as is normal they were not built for the marine industry but off grid homes that have long term composting bins in place .
They have just been marketed to us

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by newhaul

except as is normal they were not built for the marine industry but off grid homes that have long term composting bins in place .
They have just been marketed to us

Hmmm, I'm aware of actual composting toilet systems used in remote (off-grid) camps and cabins. Sun Mar makes a good line of them, but some of these actually compost (not sure about the smaller, self-contained versions, but the bigger one for sure). And these are not separator-type toilets. I've not seen a separator-type toilet used in a cabin.

Of course most "off grid" cabins I aware of use the old fashion method of dealing with all this stuff .