Is this the real deal?

[john61ct]

https://m.ebay.com/itm/22-Classic-Cr...t/132614332402

Too small for me, and a woody, but wow, what a great description (if lacking derails 8-)

Comments from the group mind please!

[Timoqueg]

John,

You have great taste in great boats!

[NCGunDude]

Awsome for a single guy, but I'd never talk my wife into it, except as a day sailor. That boat is made for a single's cruise!

[john61ct]

First find the boat, then let her help you filter the choice of mate

Don't see an emoji for duck 'n run 8-)

[john61ct]

But seriously, would it be worth considering a wooden boat, given that she seems actively seafaring, assuming rigging sails etc in good shape?

Asking for an imaginary friend, alter-ego I suppose.

The whole scenario seems like a Nigerian prince scam, too good to be true. . .

[JPA Cate]

John,

Fwiw, when we first started international cruising, we met people in Mexico with 21 and 22 ft. boats. One would want someone with experience of timber boats to go over her carefully, but yes, she could be safely cruised if she is in good condition and has large enough water tanks.

That picture shows a tidy boat, but one would really have to have a very careful look at her interior. She requires to be very sturdy, and that may make her very slow. Also, one wants to understand what kind of construction she is.

Most Americans are afraid of timber and will ask for fiberglass. Another thing (in view of others of your discussions on CF) you might want to consider is that timber boats detest being trailered. She would have to have a good cradle in which to be made fast. Highway speeds are like a hurricane, and the jolting of expansion joints is not good for joinery or caulking.

Ann

[john61ct]

Thanks.

And yes I realize from the get go this doesn't fit my grand plan.

Just made me amazed and curious in the abstract, like I said must be unicorn season.

[gulfcoastsailor]

A Cape Dory 25 is a fiberglass hull. Probably solid as well.

I don't understand the "real deal" aspect of this post.

Cape Dory 25

[NevisDog]

My first yacht was mahogany, carvel planks on oak. I did love her dearly but: They require constant maintenance. They do not like to be left ashore during summer months. Fresh water is worse for them than salt. They have a relatively finite life expectancy (unless some loving restorer enjoys a project). A great vessel for someone who enjoys the maintenance of wood more than they enjoy sailing.

Something that greatly surprised me: I worked aboard a wooden fishing vessel on which every frame was doubled - half the frame was oak and half larch. All frames extended above deck level, to which the bulwarks were then attached. On each exposed frame, the larch was in perfect condition while the oak was noticeably less so, due I think to the fresh water above deck level. For such reasons, Norwegian craft were traditionally built with oak planks on larch frames, I believe.

[captmikem]

Originally Posted by john61ct

But seriously, would it be worth considering a wooden boat, given that she seems actively seafaring, assuming rigging sails etc in good shape?

Asking for an imaginary friend, alter-ego I suppose.

The whole scenario seems like a Nigerian prince scam, too good to be true. . .

Add says "Hull AND wood in great shape" This is not a wood boat, I believe he is talking about the teak trim etc.

M

[NevisDog]

Originally Posted by captmikem

... This is not a wood boat, I believe he is talking about the teak trim etc.

Quoted from the ad: "Flying Cloud is a 22’ Clyst Class Sloop, built in 1965. She is of carvel construction, planked in mahogany on oak frames."

[captmikem]

Originally Posted by NevisDog

Quoted from the ad: "Flying Cloud is a 22’ Clyst Class Sloop, built in 1965. She is of carvel construction, planked in mahogany on oak frames."

I stand corrected. I did not see that in the add. Thank you

Kindly ignore my previous post.

M

[hellosailor]

John-
"But seriously, would it be worth considering a wooden boat"
The insulation, the soundproofing, the look and feel of a fine wood boat? Ah heck, if you enjoy extensive woodworking as a hobby (how many beams can need replacing or sistering, how many silicon bronze screws can there be?) or your house carpenter has too much free time...
We used to see a larger Very Fine Wood Yacht in some races, and the general consensus was that regardless of the rules, that boat always had right of way. I mean, the beauty just demands respect.
Heavy, cramped cabin, maintenance intensive...Yeah, not on my pay grade, but nice to look at.(G)

[Near2KR]

Originally Posted by captmikem

I stand corrected. I did not see that in the add. Thank you

Kindly ignore my previous post.

M

I almost said the same thing. It appears as though ebay has eliminated the original listing and replaced it with " something similar" to use their words.

[buzzstar]

Originally Posted by NevisDog

Quoted from the ad: "Flying Cloud is a 22’ Clyst Class Sloop, built in 1965. She is of carvel construction, planked in mahogany on oak frames."

Confusion exists. The vessel identified in post #1 is a Cape Dory 25, which is FG hull, not wood There is a second vessel added on just the main listing, but it is, in my case, not a Clyst Class Sloop, so I suspect that the add-on varies. Is the add on the source of the Clyst Class Sloop?