New Owners of a Bowman 40

[redsky49]

What a story!

28,000#!!! Wow! Quite an increase from the design weight of 19,000# when constructed by Bowman and when introduced by Morris.

It's been bittersweet watching Morris abandon the wonderful little Paine designs as they have gone upmarket, and gone astronomical in pricing. I wonder how much is due to Tom taking less of a role in the company (due to his son taking over?)

Do they even make the 36 anymore?

[MShea]

Yes, 28,000# was porky but remember, we're talking scale weight, not displacement and this was during a 'cruising' haul out. My memory might not be exactly accurate but it's very close. They certainly weigh more than advertised.

One can hardly blame Morris for following the (mass) market. After all, Hinckley abandoned it so the vacuum was there to be filled. Let's just hope they don't make the same mistakes. At the other end of the spectrum, Lyman Morse has proved that the upscale one-off market isn't sustainable either so the sweet spot is in between.

[mitiempo]

Tom Morris died a few years ago. Chuck Paine retired from designing at about the same time.

[redsky49]

Originally Posted by mitiempo

Tom Morris died a few years ago. Chuck Paine retired from designing at about the same time.

That's sad to hear. I was fortunate to become acquainted with both of them many years ago, and thought that in many ways they complemented one another.

I enjoyed visits to Tom's smaller, I believe second, shop that was behind his home(?), as well as Chuck's office.

Too bad....

[Bash]

Twenty posts into this thread and the OP still hasn't posted a portrait of his new boat.

That's cruel.

[annk]

Sad to hear that Chuck Paine has retired from designing. Saw some of the aluminum Kanter yachts that he did and they are a really interesting concept. I know of one that cruises in Antarctica and a couple that are in the chartering business.

Personally(not that I am biased) I think the Bowman 40 was the greatest boat he ever designed. Such a pity that Bowman gave in to the demands of a customer and stretched the mould from 40 to 42 feet. Unbalancing the perfect harmony of the 40. The company that bought the moulds, Rustler yachts, don't seem to be turning out any new Bowmans these days, concentrating rather on their Steven Jones designed Rustlers- a good boat too but not IMHO in the league of the Bowman 40.

Our boat has a RT of 15and 91/100 tonnes, not sure what that relates to in 'real' terms. We find that she actually sails rather well in light airs and we have managed to maintain 3-4 knots in less than 5 knots of wind- pure magic. That may have a lot to do with the heavy weight fully battened main we have that's cut to 'belly' and hold the lightest puff of wind.

Looking forward to seeing pics of the new boat too!

[mitiempo]

Here's the link to Chuck Paine's blog. The View from the Helm

He is designing some small boats now - daysailers.

[annk]

Aha! retired but still working, I love it!
Looks like there are still some very interesting projects coming off his drawing board, plus a return to his smaller cruising designs. That's great news.
Thanks for the link.

[steve.garlick]

Sorry, here's the requested photo. Happy to post photo's of any particular view if requested.

Steve

[steve.garlick]

Here's another with the winter tent up.

The boat will be getting a new bimini (I'm too tall to go underneath the current one) and I'm thinking of getting rid of the winter tent (too much extra canvas to store) and getting clears that will attach to the bimini. We plan to spend winters on the boat as much as possible so enclosing the cockpit will be important.

I think it would look terrible, but I'm wondering about fitting a radar arch to carry solar panels and hold the back edge of the bimini. Could use some davits too, but that's a lot of weight to go into the stern (There's already a heavy generator behind the companionway steps.

steve

[steve.garlick]

Real weight of Pavlov (as measured on the travel lift) was 12.5 tonnes.

Thats about 27,500 lbs for our US friends.

Steve

[mrohr]

Once considered purchasing a bowman 48. Wow,definately not a condo. A sleek world cruiser ,might get one yet.

[barnakiel]

Now this is what I call a lovely boat.

By the way they deliver very well on a crossing - relatively fast and definitively comfortable boat.

b.

[Blaa]

I'm also a new owner of a bowman 40(1996), and considering an arch.. Leave a note for exchanging info :-)

And, I need a new genua #1, do you know your measurements?

[Blaa]

considering mounting an arch with solarpanels and wind generator, and throwing out the generator!