Why do you guys like monohulls so much?

[lyl]

Originally Posted by JamesPNW

I beg your pardon. For thousands of years the Polynesian navigated open ocean with catamaran. The Viking crossed Atlantic ocean on longship to Greenland and N America continent and back. They traveled thousands of miles, mapped out the sea routes used until now. Neither of their boats had a full keel. The Polynesian and the Viking are sure as hell real sailors.

You've totally proven me wrong, in a good way, but still, Polynesians didn't sail boats out of Ikea!?

[CassidyNZ]

Originally Posted by Full

i was such a 'full!?'
the op should buy one of these...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7a/58...9a8e2d0c8f.jpg

This post appears to be tongue-in cheek but actually there is a vessel just like the one posted that sails still between Pacific islands carrying passengers. I last saw it in Fiji in 2018.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by CassidyNZ

This post appears to be tongue-in cheek but actually there is a vessel just like the one posted that sails still between Pacific islands carrying passengers. I last saw it in Fiji in 2018.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ailing2009.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...5P7CEwpQbPtkZA
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.town...ize=1200%2C749

[Ken Fry]

Originally Posted by CassidyNZ

This post appears to be tongue-in cheek but actually there is a vessel just like the one posted that sails still between Pacific islands carrying passengers. I last saw it in Fiji in 2018.

Joseph Norwood wrote a book on sailing fast, (and especially how to design very fast sailboats) and the crab claw rig gets some attention. No dummies, those Polynesians.

[Ken Fry]

Originally Posted by Full

sorry that you're offended.

I hope you know that I was not offended in any way, shape, or form. I've liked getting your insights. There are all sorts of sailors and sailboats, and that's a good thing. I tend to lean toward the lunatic fringe regarding flying over soft or hard water, but I'm very often draw to full keel boats too. (In fact -- here is a stunning admission: I have generally referred to motor boats as stink boats. But even so, I occasionally lust after an old wooden Chris-craft, Elco, etc.)

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Ken Fry

I hope you know that I was not offended in any way, shape, or form. I've liked getting your insights. There are all sorts of sailors and sailboats, and that's a good thing. I tend to lean toward the lunatic fringe regarding flying over soft or hard water, but I'm very often draw to full keel boats too. (In fact -- here is a stunning admission: I have generally referred to motor boats as stink boats. But even so, I occasionally lust after an old wooden Chris-craft, Elco, etc.)

Then this will make you drool all over .

1963 century resorter 21.
403 Buick. 35 knots easily and the wife loves the boat.

[Ken Fry]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Then this will make you drool all over .

1963 century resorter 21.
403 Buick. 35 knots easily and the wife loves the boat.

Right you are!! I'll have my cardiologist send you the bill. It took him a while to get my heart rate back to normal. Our tastes must be pretty similar... I had a 63 columbia too. A contender. Quite pretty with bright finished hatches and comings.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by Ken Fry

Joseph Norwood wrote a book on sailing fast, (and especially how to design very fast sailboats) and the crab claw rig gets some attention. No dummies, those Polynesians.

I, once, managed to fit a crab claw rig with a long stabilizer on an aluminum canoe. It was fast as if I were not wasting any portion of the wind.

[lyl]

Originally Posted by Ken Fry

I hope you know that I was not offended in any way, shape, or form. I've liked getting your insights. There are all sorts of sailors and sailboats, and that's a good thing. I tend to lean toward the lunatic fringe regarding flying over soft or hard water, but I'm very often draw to full keel boats too. (In fact -- here is a stunning admission: I have generally referred to motor boats as stink boats. But even so, I occasionally lust after an old wooden Chris-craft, Elco, etc.)

i put a smiley face at the end. i was just giving u a hard time - didn't really think u were offended.
i rented a windrider 17 back in time. it was fast, fun, and dry, a great lake boat - one of its own kind.
i'd be just fine with owning a corsair 37, but the luxuries on a lagoon 50 don't mean anything to me. sailing a luxuriously comfortable catamaran is like bringing everything that i wanna run away from with me to everywhere i go; it's like living in a dull red bricked suburban house, sad & depressing. despite my generalizing, there are pretty cool speedy catamarans too, i think, but the popularity of them comes from their comfort and luxurious bs - my ranting was about suburbanization and mainstreaminization of multihulls. suburbanites ruined the car market; all we have is auto tranny suvs these days. and, now, they've decided to ruin the sailboats. it wouldn't surprise me a bit if one day all we'll have be 'trendy' cats in the sailboat market around here.
anyhow... meaningless ranting... i just want a full keel sailboat at the end of the day. i want to start with an old 27ft full keel, gain enough experience, and then buy a new ip349 one day. it's 2 early to even discuss about the future new boat, but i think an old 27/28ft full keel is a great choice as a first sailboat - a day sailor, weekender to learn the ropes...

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Ken Fry

Right you are!! I'll have my cardiologist send you the bill. It took him a while to get my heart rate back to normal. Our tastes must be pretty similar... I had a 63 columbia too. A contender. Quite pretty with bright finished hatches and comings.

Yep aint nothing like well polished wood.
But my real pride and joy is my 63 defender hull# 60 . The contenders big brother
Took me 15 years of searching to find one for sale.

[Dave Noosa]

A million dollar Cat is unattainable, the dream stays alive with a $150k monohull

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Dave Noosa

A million dollar Cat is unattainable, the dream stays alive with a $150k monohull

Who says you need a million dollar cat?
Plenty of decent cats around for $150k
A world cruising cat around 60ft can be had for $500k

And plenty of what many would consider world cruising monos for around $60k

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by Dave Noosa

A million dollar Cat is unattainable, the dream stays alive with a $150k monohull

It's not about the money, although that rules out any cats I'd be interesated in.

It's about the boat and the experience, it's about the sailing, the romance of it, and the sport of it.

You'all can have your condos and your white pressed yachting attire

I'll take my old liveabord race boat any day.

Photos:
Each of us knows what we prefer, but the first 4 photos are what I love.

The last two I find sterile and boring.

Hinckley 40 (I included this because it is gorgeous and it typifies monohull sail boats)
Wings Interior
Racing
Sailing with friends
Lagoon Interior (and if you like this I know of about 7 million condos which look just like it)
Catamaran Sailing

[kiwin]

If you do the comparison on a dollars basis:

What a cat gets you: no heeling & shoal draught

What a mono gets you: more room and faster speeds.

For the same dollars you will get a longer, roomier monohull. Most cats I have sailed and sailed with simply are not quick, with a few exceptions, especially when loaded up with all the gear.

[smj]

Originally Posted by wingssail

It's not about the money, although that rules out any cats I'd be interesated in.



It's about the boat and the experience, it's about the sailing, the romance of it, and the sport of it.



You'all can have your condos and your white pressed yachting attire



I'll take my old liveabord race boat any day.



Photos:

Each of us knows what we prefer, but the first 4 photos are what I love.



The last two I find sterile and boring.



Hinckley 40 (I included this because it is gorgeous and it typifies monohull sail boats)

Wings Interior

Racing

Sailing with friends

Lagoon Interior (and if you like this I know of about 7 million condos which look just like it)

Catamaran Sailing

Hate to tell you but not all cats are condos. Ours would blow you away sailing and have significantly more room, but we don’t have the beautiful varnished wood interior, there are trade offs.
We probably are the exception to the rule though