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Old 20-04-2012, 11:20   #91
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Re: Why is the Marconi Rig so Popular?

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And, if so:

- will a cat pont higher than a sloop?

Yes/No?

And why?

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Yes, do not let a Hobie 17 (cat rig) set up on the start line below you when you're on a Hobie 20 (sloop). The Hobie 20 has better daggerboards, and a more powerful rig, but the 17 will drive you up to where your jib is backwinding when they're sailing they're normal course. It's even worse when you have an 18 square to leeward.

Main operates in the header from the jib. If you set up the jib to point as high as a cat rig the main will be essentially providing no forward drive.
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Re: Why is the Marconi Rig so Popular?

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Yes, do not let a Hobie 17 (cat rig) set up on the start line below you when you're on a Hobie 20 (sloop). The Hobie 20 has better daggerboards, and a more powerful rig, but the 17 will drive you up to where your jib is backwinding when they're sailing they're normal course. It's even worse when you have an 18 square to leeward.

Main operates in the header from the jib. If you set up the jib to point as high as a cat rig the main will be essentially providing no forward drive.
Ah, that's when you port-tack the fleet, hoping the pin is favored. (Assuming you're in the sloop, of course.)
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Old 20-04-2012, 12:43   #93
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Re: Why is the Marconi Rig so Popular?

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Ah, that's when you port-tack the fleet, hoping the pin is favored. (Assuming you're in the sloop, of course.)
Had a new guy at one of our Hobie races years ago. Sitting around talking that evening after the races he said that at first he thought we weren't very good at racing. He came from racing 505s, and said that since the pin end was heavily favored it was obviously a port tack start and looked at all of us on starboard and thought I'll show these rubes. Well he tried it, and said never again. 8 Hobies coming at you at 10-15 knots on starboard, you on port trying to find a hole and a spot to tack in a boat that tacks slowly and comes out nearly stopped. There's a reason we became good at hitting the line on starboard tack with a pin favored line.

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Old 20-04-2012, 12:55   #94
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Re: Why is the Marconi Rig so Popular?

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ccouldnt see it--i aint speakin' ketches this time--dual marconi rigged shiplets..lol...what IS that, me friend??
That's just one of them slow ketches. And an unusually ugly one too (as ugly as a ketch can get...).

Buhahahahaha!

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Saw her at the dock in the West Indies. Much as I find them slow (and ugly!) I did stop (for like an hour) to have a closer look.

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Old 20-04-2012, 13:18   #95
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Re: Why is the Marconi Rig so Popular?

omg can ketches ever beeee oogly.but mine is special--she actually does that which she was designed to do ----novel concept in sailing, isnt it??
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Double Marconi as good as double Martini ;-)

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