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BambooSailor · 26-09-2015, 17:14

I share your view re 4 cabins vs. owner version. Unless you want/need an office, owner hull on many designs waste too much space. On some of them all you get is larger sink in master head and small sofa. I like flexibility of 4 cabins, as it is very easy to use one of them for storage and if need arises convert it back to a bedroom. When it comes to number of heads, it depends on how big they are. Some cats have one bigger head and one smaller per hull for the total of 4, but, in any case I like having separate, enclosed shower, which on smaller cats means two heads.

JasonS · 26-09-2015, 17:32

We have a Manta 40. Three staterooms and two heads with two shower areas, plus of course the transom shower (our favorite).

In reality we shower outside on the transom 90% of the time. Easier, less cleaning, less humidity inside.

One head per hull is more than enough!

Good luck finding the right boat for you.

Jason
"Breathe" Manta 40

amiller · 26-09-2015, 21:33

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Originally Posted by afriis

We have a Lagoon 400 and it can be had with 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. Iwould recommend either that version or the owners version.
The 4 bathroom version is ridiculous.

The L400 in the 4cabin/2head version would be my first choice of boat. Unfortunately, the privately owned ones push the limits of our budget so I find myself looking at some slightly more "worn" charter boats which commonly have the 4/4 setup.

I think the conversations here have confirmed my thoughts:
1) 4 cabins is nice because cabin #4 can be storage or revert to a bed if/when needed.
2) there is no reason to have 4 heads, except if you like cleaning and maintenance chores.

senormechanico · 27-09-2015, 08:58

With all this talk about bathrooms and bedrooms, how many dining rooms and living rooms do these boats have?

Celestialsailor · 27-09-2015, 09:08

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Originally Posted by amiller

As we work on narrowing down boat choices we're facing the "charter layout" vs "owner's version" decision.

We're looking for a 38-41' cat for us adults and two kids. The owner's versions all have an entire hull occupied by the master cabin, which seems wasteful to me. In my vision 4 bedrooms would allow more flexibility and versatility for personal space, guests, storage, etc.

But.... the 4 cabin boats mostly have 4 bathrooms. 4 bathrooms means bathrooms that are cramped, extra equipment to fail and maintain, etc.

So the question: How practical is it to convert 2 of the cramped heads to shower only stalls, while leaving the other 2 heads as toilet/sink rooms? Is there a reason not to do this?

I believe the correct terminology is staterooms and heads. Unless you plan to park it on the hard, downtown of your city. Then bedroom and bathrooms are fine.
Have you worked towards sailing lessons yet and then chartering? Might help before a purchase.

**StuM** · 27-09-2015, 14:32

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Originally Posted by senormechanico

With all this talk about bathrooms and bedrooms, how many dining rooms and living rooms do these boats have?

Not to mention the cellar

shipofools · 28-09-2015, 07:10

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Originally Posted by thinwater

Heck, I'd vote for one head. Our house has three, and two of those are scarcely used. But if you really like maintaining more hose, valves and pumps....

Room is always better.

one head is my vote as well, use the space for something else.

bpiccoli · 28-09-2015, 08:43

I have a Lagoon 400S in charter,,, 4 cabins two heads and it charters great,, two heads are larger and have more space,, no need for 4 heads...

Outsideworld · 28-09-2015, 10:07

No help here. Just want to say we are family of 5 looking for one also, but I think we need couple more feet to add to our boat.

SkiprJohn · 28-09-2015, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

I believe the correct terminology is staterooms and heads. Unless you plan to park it on the hard, downtown of your city. Then bedroom and bathrooms are fine.
Have you worked towards sailing lessons yet and then chartering? Might help before a purchase.

Shame on you! This is, afterall, a multihull thread.

smj · 28-09-2015, 18:09

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Originally Posted by SkiprJohn

Shame on you! This is, afterall, a multihull thread.

You're just jealous because your boat sports 1/2 a bedroom and a porta potty!

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MotuIti · 28-09-2015, 18:29

Our Leopard 42 was a 4 head now has two heads removed. One became a walk in closest with drawers and sink. The other became a laundry with washer/ spinner and storage. We love it.

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**JPA Cate** · 28-09-2015, 18:30

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Originally Posted by amiller

As we work on narrowing down boat choices we're facing the "charter layout" vs "owner's version" decision.

We're looking for a 38-41' cat for us adults and two kids. The owner's versions all have an entire hull occupied by the master cabin, which seems wasteful to me. In my vision 4 bedrooms would allow more flexibility and versatility for personal space, guests, storage, etc.

But.... the 4 cabin boats mostly have 4 bathrooms. 4 bathrooms means bathrooms that are cramped, extra equipment to fail and maintain, etc.

So the question: How practical is it to convert 2 of the cramped heads to shower only stalls, while leaving the other 2 heads as toilet/sink rooms? Is there a reason not to do this?

Is the boat to be a long term cruiser? If so, I'd consider making two of those heads into office/study areas. Having a small place for school work, or whatever you use a desk for, would surely be a useful addition to a long term cruising boat. Add shelves for school materials and manuals.

If you're not going to be cruising full time, then suit your whims and make changes as desired.

Ann