45' - 40' tri's that are race-fast but you can cruise, too?

[Polux]

and you have the Challenge 42:

Challenge 42 : la grande croisière rapide

[barnakiel]

Not sure you can get near to a 50 racing class tri with anything that is not a 50 racing class.

There are Dragonflies, Corsairs but they are pigs compared to a class 50.

b.

[barnakiel]

PS get a Class 50 and convert her. Why not?

b.

[Polux]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

Not sure you can get near to a 50 racing class tri with anything that is not a 50 racing class.

There are Dragonflies, Corsairs but they are pigs compared to a class 50.

b.

Some few years back in France a small shipyard made a cruiser racer out of a multi50. I saw the boat but can't remember the name

Anyway I believe they only made one boat. The price was very high and the cruiser amenities very limited. A boat like that has to be expensive and the market is very limited.

That Challenge 42 that I had posted before was also the only one made. Two years ago a very nice one was proposed in the US. I only heard about that when the boat was released, so again, I believe it has the only one. I guess there are not a market for that kind of boats: too expensive with a very small interior for the size.

Getting an old an no competitive racing trimaran and modify it for cruising would make more sense unless there is not any limit with the budget.

[barnakiel]

Yep.

That's where the line between cruising and sailing is: tris, ULDBs, etc. make very fine sailing boats. One who likes sailing, can cruise in a racer allright.

Remember Herreshoff.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1311/...7b9a283c_o.gif

b.

[Pipeline]

Thx to Polux and Barnakiel (loved the Herreshoff image) for the input. I would have to agree with you. You may remember a Multi-50 that charismatic Frenchman (of course) Lalou Roucayrol had built about five or six years ago. He had a great idea...a racer/cruiser, with big amas, though a sparse interior, and an out-board rudder, as he raced this boat successfully all over the world. Coming back from S. America two years ago, he rolled in a violent squall, where a freighter picked his crew and him up, but the tri was damaged by the freighter, and abandoned. His new very fast 50 is launching Saturday, I believe. The new design is based on "Actual", the very successful Multi-50.

Would I rather have the amenities...or go very fast? As a former Hobie 18 and 20 sailor, I'll take the "go very fast", but that's just me, even at my advanced age. So, both of you guyz are right...get a solid racer, and convert. I actually have the best of both worlds in my present boat, as she's fast (22 knots to weather a month ago) but she may be too big and powerful for me in a few years...though like most of you, I am battling back this age thing. BTW, the Challenger 42 looks to be an interesting boat. I just can't imagine that more folks would prefer a floating condomaran, rather than that 42. Eric Hiscock must be rolling around in his grave...

[mattyc]

Here is your answer....

Trimaran 1983 Custom Shuttleworth Fast Cruising Trimaran Trimaran For Sale

[FSMike]

Some of Chris White's tri designs may interest you.
chriswhitedesigns.com

[threadkiller]

Originally Posted by mattyc

Here is your answer....

Trimaran 1983 Custom Shuttleworth Fast Cruising Trimaran Trimaran For Sale

This boat is in La Paz, it is not so pretty in person.

[Polux]

I remember the name of the boat I was talking about previously. It is not a 50ft but a 42ft: Krysalis. It was projected as a cruiser racer but ended up to be much of a racer. The boat even recoils its amas to fit in a normal marina place.

They have planned a good interior but the 2? that were made have pretty much a racing interior.... that can be modified. There is one for sale.

Krysalid 42' by Auriga Yacht on Vimeo

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[sailor1026]

A friend of mine has a Condor 40 for sale for quite a reasonable price in Annapolis, MD. PM if you're interested.

[Sand crab]

So Pipe, was/is your Contour 50 named Pipeline? Like the one that is for sale in Hawaii.

[Pipeline]

That's correct. Pipeline 1, a Contour 50, was my former boat. Solid boat, well-rigged. I believe they built six boats, and mine was #5. The boats got lighter, as the newer ones were built. Never had a problem with the boat. Traded her as the downpayment on my existing 62' tri, Pipeline 2.