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Old 25-11-2023, 12:29   #16
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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

You should go white water rafting first to see how much the below water surface area influences where you go.

That thing will never sail where you want to go. It will go where the current pushes you.

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Old 25-11-2023, 14:50   #17
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All I can think of is that the Flying Hawaiian gets another shot at it! So many parallels it's not even funny. Maybe you'll make it twice as far...
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Some years back I came across a guy that had built a small steel barge as his personal sailboat. It was around 40' long and 20' wide. The front of this thing had a forward slope to the it, but the rest was slab sided.
He had two masts on this thing, and I use this term with tongue in cheek, as they were aluminum light poles, with some kind of Chinese lug rig on it.
There were two outboard engines attached to the stern for propulsion.
He had grandiose dreams for sure, but after launching it, he made it about 1/4 mile before the futility of chis craft became obvious.
I have photo's of it somewhere in my stash of photo's.
Last I heard a local dredging company had purchased this thing to use as a dirt hauler and I see the same future for the above dream craft.
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Old 25-11-2023, 16:05   #19
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To the OP.
Go to "boatdesign.net", there are several accredited Naval Architects and Marine Engineers on that site.
I'm sure that one or more of them will respond to your posts/ideas.
Depending upon their mood at the moment you might be politely told to disabuse yourself of your design notions, or perhaps told that an easier way to obtain a few minutes of fame would be to design a new type of barrel with which to go over Niagra Falls in.
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Old 25-11-2023, 17:34   #20
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To the OP.
Go to "boatdesign.net", there are several accredited Naval Architects and Marine Engineers on that site.
I'm sure that one or more of them will respond to your posts/ideas.
Depending upon their mood at the moment you might be politely told to disabuse yourself of your design notions, or perhaps told that an easier way to obtain a few minutes of fame would be to design a new type of barrel with which to go over Niagra Falls in.
Bowdrie,

You just do not understand. The OP is WAY smarter than any other naval architect. None of them can think outside the box like he can.
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Some years back I came across a guy that had built a small steel barge as his personal sailboat. It was around 40' long and 20' wide. The front of this thing had a forward slope to the it, but the rest was slab sided.
He had two masts on this thing, and I use this term with tongue in cheek, as they were aluminum light poles, with some kind of Chinese lug rig on it.
There were two outboard engines attached to the stern for propulsion.
He had grandiose dreams for sure, but after launching it, he made it about 1/4 mile before the futility of chis craft became obvious.
I have photo's of it somewhere in my stash of photo's.
Last I heard a local dredging company had purchased this thing to use as a dirt hauler and I see the same future for the above dream craft.

Interesting enough, the late Phil Bolger designed some very unconventional slab sided shallow draft boats though who have their followers and make good coastal cruising boats if time is not of the essence.



Still I agree on the assessment of the OP's contraption. It will not move in a controlled manner, let alone being a livable space for two at any length of time.



A guy who is kind of successful in microboats is Sven Yrvin.


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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

I can't say it's crazy or not, everyone dreams and realizes things, one thing is certain, for the OP, if you get to build it, be sure to raise a flag that says, I dont transport drugs....
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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

I don’t know if my pot can make enough popcorn to follow this thread but, by golly, i can just make several pots
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Down in the Florida Keys there was a guy that built a "raft" for want of a better description.
I don't remember the exact details anymore, but probably something around 8'x8', which was constructed from 2x8's and planked over with plywood. Under the plywood, were some big truck inner tubes for flotation. On top of the plywood he erected a tent of sorts from a plastic tarp.
The thing had a freeboard of about 4" and he "anchored" it with a cinder block close inshore where he could walk out to it and clamber on.
He was seen floating around between some of the lower Keys until some inclement weather sprung up and put an end to his adventure.
While I can laugh about it, I have to admire the moxy shown by the individual.

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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

Ahhh who here remembers “The Flying Hawaiian”
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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

Thank you all for all the comments and replies. I have been a bit busy, but I will find time to reply to you in the coming days.

In the meantime, I drew a few sketches of my intended sailplan and described a few more things on my main thread about my possible future project:
https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/u...n.68579/page-3
Please let me know if you think I should post it separately also in this thread.

Have a great day everyone and speak soon!

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Possible seasickness is the least of your problems.

Also, the person you refer to as "my woman" will probably leave you long before you've started construction.
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I just looked at the drawings on the other site. No comment, other than it is the funniest thing I have seen in a while.
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Re: An extra-heavy-displacement 11ft long Atlantic Proa for circumnavigation

Serious note to the OP:
You have to build it in ferrocement. The only appropriate material to give you the extra-heavy-displacement you need.

Also, 100 years from now it will still provide a good shelter for fish.
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