BVI charter DON'T DO IT!

[Cruthin]

Personally, after one off-season charter when no-one was around, I learned that I prefer company from other boats, and bars that were open. You can usually find a secluded anchorage, somewhere, if that's what you want, but if everything is closed, and there are no other sailors around, for me, that detracts somewhat from the experience.

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by denverd0n

Well, the answer to that is pretty easy. Every study that has been done has shown that fully vaccinated people can still be carriers, and can still infect other people. Getting vaccinated protects YOU, but it does NOT protect the people around you. So it makes perfect sense (at least, if you pay attention to the science) for countries to continue to require testing and masks, even for people who have been vaccinated.

True.

Ironically, the November UK official data shows the "vaccinated" people of most age groups are now twice as likely to get covid compared to non-vaccinated.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Sailboatuser

True.

Ironically, the November UK official data shows the "vaccinated" people of most age groups are now twice as likely to get covid compared to non-vaccinated.

Do you have a link or should we blindly believe you?

[Uncle Bob]

Originally Posted by Sailboatuser

True.

Ironically, the November UK official data shows the "vaccinated" people of most age groups are now twice as likely to get covid compared to non-vaccinated.

And what is the vaccinated vs unvaccinated rate in the UK? 80/20 or perhaps higher? Do the maths and tell me again how bad the vaccination is.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by smj

Do you have a link or should we blindly believe you?

Dis and misinformation require your lack of attention to actually work.
If you check their information out.... They LIE!
Boatyarddog

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

And what is the vaccinated vs unvaccinated rate in the UK? 80/20 or perhaps higher? Do the maths and tell me again how bad the vaccination is.

Hey Uncle Bob.These people cannot do math.
Just spreading unfounded misinformation.

Cause they heard its been said.
Pathetic and Sad.
Here their called Trolls.
Boatyarddog

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

Hey Uncle Bob.These people cannot do math.
Just spreading unfounded misinformation.

Cause they heard its been said.
Pathetic and Sad.
Here their called Trolls.
Boatyarddog

Some people prefer to outsource their thinking to the media.



Do your own research. Here is one link, there are many others, I'm busy now to do this for you: https://assets.publishing.service.go...rt-week-46.pdf

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bob

And what is the vaccinated vs unvaccinated rate in the UK? 80/20 or perhaps higher? Do the maths and tell me again how bad the vaccination is.

People usually compare per 100,000 to address that.
Here is one link https://assets.publishing.service.go...rt-week-46.pdf

[merrydolphin]

Wow, very sorry. BVI’s can be a pain even without covid. I do not like their customs and immigration policies, nor their fees. I can imaging it now with covid. I have sail and lived in the Caribbean for 8 yrs. I usually try to stay south of Virgins. I have also chartered there before.

[elee]

Originally Posted by Sailboatuser

Some people prefer to outsource their thinking to the media.

Do your own research. Here is one link, there are many others, I'm busy now to do this for you: https://assets.publishing.service.go...rt-week-46.pdf

Uncle Bob has it correct. There are more vaccinated people testing positive because there are just more vaccinated people. In the link, footnote 1 repeated on Tables 3, 4, 5 and 6, and pages 16-18 explicitly tells you this. Sure, "do your own research," but know your limitations. [note, I previously discussed this link in the COVID containment area, where I agree it should belong]

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by elee

Uncle Bob has it correct. There are more vaccinated people testing positive because there are just more vaccinated people. In the link, footnote 1 repeated on Tables 3, 4, 5 and 6, and pages 16-18 explicitly tells you this. Sure, "do your own research," but know your limitations. [note, I previously discussed this link in the COVID containment area, where I agree it should belong]

Rates per 100,000 are on page 23 if you are interested in that information.

Good luck reading the entire report.


The comment was in context, but feel free to censor or report me if you get triggered.

[sv_pelagia]

Originally Posted by Sailboatuser

Rates per 100,000 are on page 23 if you are interested in that information.

Good luck reading the entire report.


The comment was in context, but feel free to censor or report me if you get triggered.

Report you link clearly confirms effectiveness of vaccines. Quite in contrast to your misinterpretation.

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by Sailboatuser

True.

Ironically, the November UK official data shows the "vaccinated" people of most age groups are now twice as likely to get covid compared to non-vaccinated.

Please refer where you've read this statement above.

I scanned over this link you provided, and it seems very supportive of the Vaccine, and its distribution, some 98%

We all have known for a long time that others can still be infected with a his virus, and that the reason for the vaxx is to abate the effects.
And , we know that masks do help, not 100% so social distance is required.

No new news here, so spreading the word the vaxx doesn't work is BS.

Things are better in hospitalized patients for Covid related problems.
This is so important, many need care in hospitals.
To have the facilities clogged up with mainly unvaccinated patients is really bad.
Those that don't Vax, and safely can are taxiing our ability to help the many.
So I'll not be clogging this topic up with the usual haggle.
Vaccine work!
Those that don't contribute, should not expect much assistance, and we will ALL see, how things turn out.
I got boosted last week.
So, I'll still social distance from the boat.
Hope we won't have to add your name to the 800,000 that are dead, from a "non virus"
Boatyarddog

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

Please refer where you've read this statement above.

I scanned over this link you provided, and it seems very supportive of the Vaccine, and its distribution, some 98%

We all have known for a long time that others can still be infected with a his virus, and that the reason for the vaxx is to abate the effects.
And , we know that masks do help, not 100% so social distance is required.

No new news here, so spreading the word the vaxx doesn't work is BS.

Things are better in hospitalized patients for Covid related problems.
This is so important, many need care in hospitals.
To have the facilities clogged up with mainly unvaccinated patients is really bad.
Those that don't Vax, and safely can are taxiing our ability to help the many.
So I'll not be clogging this topic up with the usual haggle.
Vaccine work!
Those that don't contribute, should not expect much assistance, and we will ALL see, how things turn out.
I got boosted last week.
So, I'll still social distance from the boat.
Hope we won't have to add your name to the 800,000 that are dead, from a "non virus"
Boatyarddog

I don't care how many boosters you take. The topic was about testing the vaccinated and the person was not happy about it.

The report clearly shows that vaccinated were twice (or more) as likely to get infection (not die) compared to unvaccinated. Hence requirement for testing.
I hope those boosters will help you understand the report better.

[Sailboatuser]

Originally Posted by sv_pelagia

Report you link clearly confirms effectiveness of vaccines. Quite in contrast to your misinterpretation.

Again, the question was not about the effectiveness but about testing requirement for vaccinated. Infection and transmission is the point.

Some people get their undies twisted when the data is not supporting their cherished beliefs.

Read first two columns of the table 6, page 23 and think before typing.