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Old 03-12-2015, 13:14   #1
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How do you right a cat that has flipped over

Just curious.
What precautions would one take to keep this from happening?
Sobriety for one comes to mind.

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Old 03-12-2015, 18:30   #2
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[QUOTE]Just curious.
What precautions would one take to keep this from happening?
Sobriety for one comes to mind.


Don't worry - catamarans don't flip.
I've had a cat for over a year now, sailed hundreds of miles and have never flipped. Not even once!

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I don't know but I'm sure it's a lot easier than finding and raising a mono from a 1000 fathoms down.
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Re: How do you right a cat that has flipped over

LOL. There's a reason they don't make videos of sunken monohulls.
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Mental note. Keep my red bottom paint.

Hopefully, Ill never be belly up though.
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Just curious.
What precautions would one take to keep this from happening?
Sobriety for one comes to mind.
It is possible to flip a cat if you leave it over-canvassed in big wind and seas.

So reduce sail early, no worries.

If you have a daggerboard cat, raise the daggerboards.

The cat in the video was overcanvassed and hit with very strong wind. There's a lot of information around on Anna's capsize, including comments from the designer - Chris White --> http://www.chriswhitedesigns.com/news/anna_capsize/
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Re: How do you right a cat that has flipped over

Chris White thinks that one could run a line as a bridle, each end attached to the bow of each hull. Tie the bridle to a line and attach to a tow boat. He doesn't think it would take much of a force to do this. Pull the line between the two upturned hulls, pulling aft. The resistance of the pilot house sand submerged aft hulls would cause the boat to roll end for end upright. Once upright is a whole new set of problems. But maybe. Interesting idea
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Re: How do you right a cat that has flipped over

I know this technique has been used on a smaller racing style boat.


But realistically, if you capsize offshore, you've very likely lost your boat.


The idea is to avoid it. With cruising boats sailed sensibly, capsizes are quite rare. Reef early. Reefing the main not only reduces sail area, but lowers the centre of effort. At night we always put in an extra reef.


In the conditions Anna was in, at night with line squalls in the area, they really should have had at least two reefs in. I would have had, anyway.
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I would not sail multihulls offshore.

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And that is the kind of ignorant crap that ruins this forum.
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That's ok with me, Paul... don't do it.

But if that was advice for the OP, you should back it up with a reason, and back the reason up with data.

I'm not known to be a multi hull enthusiast (yet), but I must agree with 44CC that such responses are far from helpful.

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No don't do it stay onshore!

Used to be able to right my 16 ft beach cat in younger days but think my current fat bottom cruising girl would be more of a challenge to get upright than I hope to ever cope with.
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And I wouldn't get on a boat that had you as crew, but neither of us is really adding anything productive to this discussion are we? I mean seriously, that sort of wildly stupid, inane and quite frankly ludicrous comment only serves to illustrate your ignorance of the world of sailing.

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Funny, many of your posts say people are dumb,uneducated, should read more etc and well ,,i think your glass house just lost a few walls

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Re: How do you right a cat that has flipped over

"How do you right a cat that has flipped over"


You don't, overturns on a cruising Cat apparently are about as likely as a mono sinking, you don't recover from either.
Now as I'm no Cat sailor I may get this wrong, but with big Cats they seem to range form the extremely high performance race only boats that take an experienced crew to keep from capsizing, to "Condo Cats" that even an idiot can't make capsize, you decide where you want to be along that line
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