Inboard Or Outboard?

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

I used to think the same as you do. Until I got on a 36 foot sailing catamaran with two 20HP diesels. What a dog it was in any heavy wind and waves. You always had to motor with both 20 HP engines, ALWAYS.

Was it a SAILING boat?

Both types have pro's and con's. But if you consider your PRIMARY propulsion to be sail, outboards will make for a better sailing boat.

But outboards do need to be installed properly. If they're simply hung on the transoms, they'll spend much of their time trying to push air.

[Saildriver44]

Sage advice from one and all. So let's cut to the chase. I'm going singlehanded. I retire in 30 days. I've found the following boats that interest me. 1. PDQ 36 Capella loaded with all the latest greatest. Even down to the wifi bullet. Year 1997 outboards 2005. 2. PDQ same type setup but a 2002 without quite the inventory. 3. 42' Lagoon tpi pretty loaded like number one. Year 1993 engines yanmar rebuilt 2006. 4. Lagoon 380 2003 great condition not quite as loaded. Engines yanmar 2003. And 5. 1998 Prout 38 fairly loaded with new beta 30s for power. So there you have it. My choices presented for you to comment on, make suggestions, and generally just throw out opinions. I know it will be my decision and I'm sure if all things are equal it will boil down to what 'hits' me since price range for all is negligible. All are owner versions if you can call it that since they are the smaller versions. Your input will help me immensely since I can't take a crunch course in the nuances of all the types, years, and versions of all the boats. Any past or present, good or bad would be great. Thanks again for taking time out to help.


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[Cotemar]

Here is my picks for what it's worth.
1) Lagoon 380
2) Prout 38
3) Lagoon TPI 42
4) PDQ 36 Capella
5) PDQ 36

[smj]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

Here is my picks for what it's worth.
1) Lagoon 380
2) Prout 38
3) Lagoon TPI 42
4) PDQ 36 Capella
5) PDQ 36

You have a trawler in your future.

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by smj

You have a trawler in your future.

No, I have a Leopard 51 PC in my future.....

[tuffr2]

Someone advised me that in heavy seas on the outboard when you need motor power the most to get you out if a tight spot the props will come out of the water. That makes some sense to me.



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[Saildriver44]

Thanks cotemar. Now if you got a minute could you say why you ranked them in that order? I wish I could get more responses like yours. It's intriguing to find out everyone's reasons and preferences.


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[Cotemar]

OK, smj. Why on earth did you rank them in that order ??!!!......

[smj]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

OK, smj. Why on earth did you rank them in that order ??!!!......

I only like one in your ranking and it's the last on your list!


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[Cotemar]

Here is the reason I picked them in this order.

1) Lagoon 380, is the 2nd highest production catamaran made, just behind Gemini. They have a great resale market. They are built like a tank and make for a great live aboard.

2) Prout 38 is a very well built boat and and make for a great live aboard.

3) Lagoon TPI 42 these are built like a tank also and you will have room to spare.

4) PDQ 36 Capella all you have to do is bring a friend along and open the engine hatch to show him the salted up little yami 9.9 just watch his belly laughter. It's like having 9.9 squirrels pushing your boat. This will make a great day sailor.

5) PDQ 36 same as above

[Factor]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

friend along and open the engine hatch to show him the salted up little yami 9.9 just watch his belly laughter. It's like having 9.9 squirrels pushing your boat.

You have less intelligent friends than me.

[Factor]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Someone advised me that in heavy seas on the outboard when you need motor power the most to get you out if a tight spot the props will come out of the water. That makes some sense to me.

When next you see "someone" ask him/her to refine the comment. It depends where they are mounted, if they are on transoms, bit of an issue, mine are 2-3 metres in from the end of the boat. No issues

[smj]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

Here is the reason I picked them in this order.

1) Lagoon 380, is the 2nd highest production catamaran made, just behind Gemini. They have a great resale market. They are built like a tank and make for a great live aboard.

2) Prout 38 is a very well built boat and and make for a great live aboard.

3) Lagoon TPI 42 these are built like a tank also and you will have room to spare.

4) PDQ 36 Capella all you have to do is bring a friend along and open the engine hatch to show him the salted up little yami 9.9 just watch his belly laughter. It's like having 9.9 squirrels pushing your boat. This will make a great day sailor.

5) PDQ 36 same as above

Catamarans are supposed to be light weight so they sail well, not built like a tank.


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[Cotemar]

If the OP is going to retire and live aboard his new ride, then those little Yami 9.9 outboards are not going to keeps his batteries charged.
They will not get him out of trouble in a storm.

These little outboards are great for your dinghy and even then most live aboards use a 20 or 25hp on their dinghy.

On what planet would you use a 25 hp outboard on your dinghy, but then put a 9.9 hp outboard on your 36 foot live aboard boat.

[nautical62]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Was it a SAILING boat?

Both types have pro's and con's. But if you consider your PRIMARY propulsion to be sail, outboards will make for a better sailing boat.

But outboards do need to be installed properly. If they're simply hung on the transoms, they'll spend much of their time trying to push air.

I agree. There's a big difference between a sailing catamaran designed to use two outboards in wells and simply slapping an outboard on the transom of a 35+ foot monohull as an inboard replacement.