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Old 01-07-2021, 03:17   #211
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Re: La Vagabonde - I don't understand

Three points come to mind.

First, on this site, so much ignorance, opinion, and judgment appear in response to reasonable questions. Some of you are not very generous.

Second, I've met a few of the sailing channel creators and have found them to be decent folk whose values and courage I respect. YouTube's single purpose is to put the right video in front of the right person at the right time. There are clearly significant numbers of people for whom many channels are a vicarious escape from what they see as the unsatisfactory realities of modern urban drudgery (see, I can be opinionated too). There are channels so much more appealing than TV that audiences voluntarily support them at extraordinary levels.

To succeed as a YouTube creator, there are five simple essentials:
  • an authentic voice
  • a well-told and solid story
  • skin in the game
  • a few easily learned video skills and literacies
  • regular refresh of the channel

For me, YT beats broadcast TV hands down. It enables channels to serve niche interests rather than general interests.

Third, as a lifelong sailor, I am so much more impressed by those for whom life at sea has engendered humility rather than hubris. I have learned that we are all vulnerable out there and should find ways to support each other rather than pull each other down.
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Old 01-07-2021, 04:33   #212
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Re: La Vagabonde - I don't understand

"Three points come to mind.

First, on this site, so much ignorance, opinion, and judgment appear in response to reasonable questions. Some of you are not very generous."

Lol, with a pedantic start like that, one had to wonder if this was some self reflection.

Much simpler to put it down to hubris and recreational complaining [emoji6]
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Old 01-07-2021, 04:41   #213
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Peoples biases are very evident, on boat styles on politics on a range of issues. Personally I am very interested to see a family high speed cruising on a trimaran, I think it will be a great vicarious experience.
I watched a few of their early episodes on the Beneteau. You have got to admit its a great story going from not knowing anything about sailing when purchasing that ex charter boat to now buying a brand new 60ft trimaran and being the most popular YouTube sailing channel and everything in between. Not a bad start to adult life.

I’m not sure how its going to work with the two young ones on this boat but good luck to them. They have earned everything that has come their way.
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Old 01-07-2021, 07:12   #214
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serious question, and I think the answer, as a number of people have pointed out, is they've broken through the sailors to the general public.

Being a sailor I find them puerile, uninteresting and too self-absorbed. Also attractiveness is in the eye of the beholder and to this beholder neither do it for me...
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Wow!
Letting all that fishing line loose in the sea is just wrong!
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Old 01-07-2021, 09:38   #216
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I'll tackle both your last posts with this one.

To get Greta (who refuses to fly supposedly; but then flew with Riley to Australia from Europe) over to NY from Europe there were at least 5 people who had to make multiple flights across the Atlantic just so that Greta didnt have to fly.

So in most all things AGW (man caused climate change) the information you get doesn't include the fact they damaged more of the atmosphere in order to present the image that no environmental damage was done. And Greta is a Saint.

She is a spoiled rotten petulant angry teenager who does NOT follow what she tells everyone else to do. (look it up on youtube) She was caught at a Climate Conference in Europe a year to two ago in her TESLA; however she had the whole backseat full of groceries which were all encased in plastic and a ton of plastic water bottles. No different than ALL AGW believers who never fully follow the IPPC or UN guidelines to what they are supposed to be doing.

Its all a show and eventually a more or less One World Government. Dont believe me then why is POTUS following exactly what the UN is telling him too. So not a conspiracy. LOL
I just told my opinion as everyone else does here.

She is doing the best that she can do at a very young age so that the future generations will have the privilage of sailing their sailboats in clean waters.

By the way, have you seen water in glass containers on the shelves lately?
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For me, YT beats broadcast TV hands down. It enables channels to serve niche interests rather than general interests.
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Agreed. Well, broadcast, meaning free over the air TV is sorta ok if you get the non traditional channels. We have not watched the "normal" free channels for years. It is a vast waste land. The channels showing reruns are not bad though. We go rid of paid TV years ago and we waited too long to do so. Talked about it often but it took effort to turn that money waster off. When we go on vacation we take our Kindle Fire so we can stream content. The places we stay have cable but there is simply nothing worth watching. It is amazing to have sooooo many channels but not thing to watch. And people pay money for it.

YouTube is awesome!

I love history, and once upon a time, the History Channel was pretty good. Then the channel turned into a reality TV presenter. Same with A&E.

On YouTube, there are some people producing outstanding history content that simply blows away what the History channel USED to do. Decades ago.

The same with the Food Channel. They used to have shows about technique and cooking but then went into reality shows like Kitchen Stadium s....t. There are soooo many YouTube channels that actually teach technique and dishes. Including Alton Brown, which is rather ironic.

Sailing and boat shows abound. There are several we follow including Delos, which we have watched from the beginning, and RAN which we bumped into along the way. Both have young children which we found fun to watch grow up on a boat, and how their parents have managed, and continue to manage handling a baby, and now toddlers on a boat. One of Delos last videos had a snippet of their little nugget in the dingy, putting on the safety lanyard and trying to pull the start cord! Both babies are "learning" to helm the boat as they mimic their parents.

I don't find Delos trying to sell products that in your face. If I turn on a broadcast channel I see all sorts of commercials. From appalling political adds, to Go To You Doctor To Get This Drug commercials, to hearing about adult diapers. I would rather hear Kazza and Brian asking me to by them a beer or buy one of their shirts.

That is much better than seeing an overweight man modeling his fancy adult diaper.

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Old 01-07-2021, 15:54   #218
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LVB , food for thought, theres alot of people on earth, + 2 now and a tri. (I know, sucks that we are here, blame it on John and Kate plus 8,9, 10) the earth is overpopulated.

I have ceased being blown away my the amount of money that flies around in entertainment, and arts. Case in point about human population, there’s so much to sell!!
Pewtiie pie.. anyone familiar? Don’t know of recent, at one point 19mil/yr for I don’t know what. Amusing kids, kinda creepy.
Music.. outrageous.. more power too ya. I think “fans” give alittle too much power away. Market yourself to the tween, teen crowd , Cha Ching$$$.
What I find sad and object to is how media outlets play along. There’s a twisted social experiment going on that wants people to “like” this and that, as if I validates something. Think about it the term”social media influencer” what does that say? Ridiculous, are people really that “wanna be”, and “follow mes”

As far as Greta, I just recently came to know her name. Really,? People have been protesting for ages. This is the media giving the dumbed down masses their “poster child”. Nothings gonna really change until us as people elect in position and remove the current bums, mainly (boomer generation and older) who have led us here, OUT OF OFFICE!
Stop reading everything as a “headline”. Politician throw words and labels around, EX: Socialist seems to scare a certain type person, when in reality there’s many variety. Look into America’s past with Milwaukee and the Great Social experiment. It wasn’t perfect, no, but better than what we have now imo.
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Re: La Vagabonde - I don't understand

The original question has been pretty well answered. Charismatic, good looking couple; portrays a desirable lifestyle; good storytelling; decent production; early to market; and plays to the audience, channel and algorithm. They do the work and treat it like a business.

Personally, couldn’t imagine anything worse than filming myself 24/7 then putting it up to some of the comments they receive. But to each their own.

Like any media, whether it appeals or not is pretty subjective. A lot depends on how much you can relate. Someone said their audience isn’t hardcore sailors or long-term cruisers, and that’s probably true.

I watch the odd episode and find them reasonably entertaining. Far less interested since it became the Lenny (now Darwin) show, but people who have/like kids would see that as a good thing.

The only channel I’ve ever watched every episode start to finish was Sail Surf Roam. Fast cat, built and sailed by frothers who love sailing, kiteboarding and surfing in stunning locations. Pretty much living my dream.
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Can anyone enlighten me as to why they are soooo far ahead in YT subs?
if you want flesh there are more sexy channels,
if you want info there are way more informative channels,
if you want videography there are much better channels.

Is it simply because they were one of the first?

And BTW how come I knew that they were getting a Rapido 18 mths ago? I thought it was common knowledge...
The best YT sailing channel hands down, IMHO, is NBJS (No Bulls#@% Just Sailing). Real sailing and excellent videography!
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Old 04-07-2021, 01:12   #221
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I just told my opinion as everyone else does here.

She is doing the best that she can do at a very young age so that the future generations will have the privilage of sailing their sailboats in clean waters.

By the way, have you seen water in glass containers on the shelves lately?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion in America; however, if they are not based upon facts then they are wrong. All I showed you was fact, that Greta put more CO2 in the atmosphere for political reasons, than if she had just flown over, rather than pulling the sailing stunt.

She has no clue to the ramifications of her rants.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion in America; however, if they are not based upon facts then they are wrong. All I showed you was fact, that Greta put more CO2 in the atmosphere for political reasons, than if she had just flown over, rather than pulling the sailing stunt.

She has no clue to the ramifications of her rants.
Who flew over? She and her father sailed from Europe to USA. ON the way back, the only person they picked up was Niki Henderson. When she got back to Portugal, she took the train back to Sweden. It's hard to find groceries that are not in some sort of packaging. The so-called facts you're talking about are her enemies trying to paint her in the worst light possible. It goes with the territory when someone is willing to stick their neck out and take a stand.
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LVB , food for thought, theres alot of people on earth, + 2 now and a tri. (I know, sucks that we are here, blame it on John and Kate plus 8,9, 10) the earth is overpopulated.

I have ceased being blown away my the amount of money that flies around in entertainment, and arts. Case in point about human population, there’s so much to sell!!
Pewtiie pie.. anyone familiar? Don’t know of recent, at one point 19mil/yr for I don’t know what. Amusing kids, kinda creepy.
Music.. outrageous.. more power too ya. I think “fans” give alittle too much power away. Market yourself to the tween, teen crowd , Cha Ching$$$.
What I find sad and object to is how media outlets play along. There’s a twisted social experiment going on that wants people to “like” this and that, as if I validates something. Think about it the term”social media influencer” what does that say? Ridiculous, are people really that “wanna be”, and “follow mes”

As far as Greta, I just recently came to know her name. Really,? People have been protesting for ages. This is the media giving the dumbed down masses their “poster child”. Nothings gonna really change until us as people elect in position and remove the current bums, mainly (boomer generation and older) who have led us here, OUT OF OFFICE!
Stop reading everything as a “headline”. Politician throw words and labels around, EX: Socialist seems to scare a certain type person, when in reality there’s many variety. Look into America’s past with Milwaukee and the Great Social experiment. It wasn’t perfect, no, but better than what we have now imo.
"Boomers"? Like most Millenials, you don't know your head from your ass. Don't know your history and what has been accomplished. Who do you think passed the clean air and clean water Act. That's just for starters. Who created the EPA? It's an ongoing process that is never finished. The boomers as you say so pejoratively have done a lot, now it's your turn. Unfortunately, based on your dependence on catchphrases and blaming everyone, I doubt much will actually be accomplished by your generation. Lots of self-righteous posturing for sure, but little else. BTW, Great social welfare programs are not the same as pure socialism. You can't even get that one right.
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For me, YT beats broadcast TV hands down. It enables channels to serve niche interests rather than general interests.

Third, as a lifelong sailor, I am so much more impressed by those for whom life at sea has engendered humility rather than hubris. I have learned that we are all vulnerable out there and should find ways to support each other rather than pull each other down.
Very well said, couldn't agree more. I started watching YT sailing channels after buying my first sailboat. I nominally support a few of them on Patreon, and am happy to do so. When I remember how much I used to pay for cable and satellite TV, and got a small fraction of the entertainment I get from YT, it makes me sick.
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The prego girl is hot, but doesnt seem great for a long term thing cuz the couple episodes i saw she seems a lil ditzy. I mwan sure shes beautiful but, how can i tap dat. Nah meen
Seriously? Thanks for the reminder of why feminism still needs to exist.
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