La Vagabonde - I don't understand

[Yes maybe]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

This is quite unreasonable. Tremendous lockdowns? Maybe you missed the world health crisis. 26,054 Canadian Covid deaths, I just looked it up. US deaths 600,000+. Canadian population is 38 million, US is 10 times that. Somehow this lockdown has saved lives. Perhaps even mine.


Freedom of speech? That's pricelessly incoherent and incorrect.


Large welfare state? Another piece of misinformation. I like my health care and it doesn't make me broke.


I lived in the US until 2016. I love it here. The people are friendly and don't go around shooting up their neighbors.


I think your post is offensive.

As an Australian I must agree with Stu J. Perhaps it may be helpful to observe and compare the differences between locations (countries) and not just react to indoctrination/nationalism?
Perhaps this is why Delos (and others I have meet) may sometimes not always say exactly were they are from.

[smj]

Originally Posted by Moana Bella

Did some folks get out of bed on the wrong side today?
Or is it a case of heaping **** on the cool kids, in the hope of appearing even cooler?
I'm scratching my head as to why I even read through this thread, but here's a go at answering the OP:
La Vagabond are very successful on You Tube because:
- They have defined their audience, and consistently deliver content that is valued by that audience.
- They have worked hard consistently for years - published well over 400 videos last l looked, and are now rewarded by the You Tube algorithm delivering new recruits.
- They are good at what they do. This is YouTube - not high art, or hard core marine expertise. You just gotta post videos.
- You Tube videos primarily offer value in 2 ways - to entertain or educate. They primarily entertain with visually beautiful images of exotic locations and beautiful people. I certainly have put a few locations such as Bahamas and Azores on my "must go" list as a result.
I don't own a bikini, I'm not young, cool, beautiful, rich, or a couch potato.
I own a boat, sail a lot, and will be living/sailing full time in a couple of months.
But I like them, (and the Wynns) so there you have it. Stereotype smashed.

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[joelhemington]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

This is quite unreasonable. Tremendous lockdowns? Maybe you missed the world health crisis. 26,054 Canadian Covid deaths, I just looked it up. US deaths 600,000+. Canadian population is 38 million, US is 10 times that. Somehow this lockdown has saved lives. Perhaps even mine.


Freedom of speech? That's pricelessly incoherent and incorrect.


Large welfare state? Another piece of misinformation. I like my health care and it doesn't make me broke.


I lived in the US until 2016. I love it here. The people are friendly and don't go around shooting up their neighbors.


I think your post is offensive.

You forgot to mention the 38 million Canadian ex pats living in the States I found Canada to be fairly similar eh until I went looking for a bacon and eggs breakfast. You could choke yourself on muffins before you ever found an egg. Freedom of speech? Head down to a local pub on the east side of Granville Island and ask them how they feel about the French Canadians - you'll need to be sitting down with a fresh pint for that one In the States, we don't have Red Green, the Hosers or half the cast of Saturday Night Live - so no, the two countries are definitely not the same but perhaps similar in a lot of ways.

[Pelagic]

Working and living on Superyachts for many years gives you a pretty good cross section of nationalities and their different traits in the 16 to 30 crew member I would hire.

Most of my crew were Kiwi and Ausralian, Canadian and US..the rest from Europe and Asia.

Canadians are different from US in many of the same ways Kiwis differ from Aussies .

Temperate climate favors a better education standard

Smaller population and military budget also means less bravado and a willingness to compromise as a follower, not leader. Easier to lean more towards socialism

They wave the flag less, but still are proud of their nation

The US is a great nation and experiment in "assimilation" of other cultures whose people choose to become American Citizens.
It is that "melting pot" which creates the ugly American mindset, which is not fair!

To me this is the biggest difference : Canada wants new citizens to retain their cultural background and use it to enrich Canada's muted personality in a very diverse way.

The USA demands unconditional allegiance and paints citizens with a broad brush.

I love both countries, but they are not the same !

[OliveJuice]

Originally Posted by Moana Bella

Did some folks get out of bed on the wrong side today?
Or is it a case of heaping **** on the cool kids, in the hope of appearing even cooler?
I'm scratching my head as to why I even read through this thread, but here's a go at answering the OP:
La Vagabond are very successful on You Tube because:
- They have defined their audience, and consistently deliver content that is valued by that audience.
- They have worked hard consistently for years - published well over 400 videos last l looked, and are now rewarded by the You Tube algorithm delivering new recruits.
- They are good at what they do. This is YouTube - not high art, or hard core marine expertise. You just gotta post videos.
- You Tube videos primarily offer value in 2 ways - to entertain or educate. They primarily entertain with visually beautiful images of exotic locations and beautiful people. I certainly have put a few locations such as Bahamas and Azores on my "must go" list as a result.
I don't own a bikini, I'm not young, cool, beautiful, rich, or a couch potato.
I own a boat, sail a lot, and will be living/sailing full time in a couple of months.
But I like them, (and the Wynns) so there you have it. Stereotype smashed.

Finally, the first non "old man yelling at the sky" answer in this thread. I don't watch Vagabonde anymore but they deserve to enjoy the success they've worked hard to achieve for so long.

Inb4 people confusing (sailing) travel vlogs and sailing videos... it's never been about the sailing guys.

[JasonS]

What is La Vagabonde??? 😝

[Nahbrown]

Gone with the Wynns - we still watch almost every video
Delos - we watch 70%
La Vagabond - 40%
Tula20%

Wind Therapy - 100% , we loosely buddy boated with these two for months and are not the least bit objective. A great couple of people!

[AZUS]

Come on, guys. They’re adorable, Lenny is all kinds of cute, they are funny, creative and informative. Most important they are entertaining, which is what their job is.

We are very lucky to sail 6 months of the year, every (non-COVID) year, in the Med on our own boat. For many people, such a life is a dream and endlessly fascinating. LVB makes that life approachable for many interested people - some I know who will never be able to even charter.

Finally, the YT sailing channels - particularly LVB - were sustenance for the Admiral for the 20-month COVID-forced hiatus from our boat. She also swears that the things she learned on those channels has made her a better sailor.

Thank you, Elayna, Riley, Lenny and now Darwin!

[Searles]

Never watched any of that stuff ,to busy sailing or fixing some one else’s boat or one of my own , horses for courses .⛵️⚓️

[westwon]

Originally Posted by leandroflaherty

The US is definetly in America, but you are way off its so similar to Canada. Canada is under tremendous lockdowns, they don't have Freedom of speech, they have a large wellfare state, etc. They are similar only in language and by proximity. I guess all Central America is the same to you?


As for fishing, if you *live on the water* you have no guilt to feel about fishing if you target sustainable species and for personal consumption. The real damage comes from industrial scale trawlers feeding the mouths of the land locked.

I’m assuming you are trolling us here. You are utterly clueless about Canada, and have no idea what species of fish are being harvested legally to feed a hungry world. Go away.

[LLCoolDave]

Originally Posted by markiobe

Can anyone enlighten me as to why they are soooo far ahead in YT subs?
if you want flesh there are more sexy channels,
if you want info there are way more informative channels,
if you want videography there are much better channels.

Is it simply because they were one of the first?

And BTW how come I knew that they were getting a Rapido 18 mths ago? I thought it was common knowledge...

It's been a few years since I watched YouTube sailing channels. Back then Delos and Vagabond were neck and neck with subscribers around 700k. Now Vagabond has doubled and Delos is largely flat. Can't say why exactly. Both have added children to the mix. Maybe vagabond is more of a lifestyle brand vs a sailing channel. In the last year the average person's net worth hasn't gone up much but the American stock market has gone up a lot.

An Amel 53 might not appeal so much when another couple started with a Bene 40? then an Outremer 50? then a Rapide 60? The Joneses need to keep up with the Joneses.

On a side note, just because people can finance a luxury car doesn't mean they can really afford one.

[Dogscout]

Sorry aboot this. Its just my opinion.

La Vagabond stopped making videos for sailors a long time ago if they even ever did. They are selling a lifestyle to the masses, and you arent even a percentage point to them. Delos is about the same. Matter of fact many of the channels dont really care a rats ass about you. They are entertainers looking for clicks where ever they can get them. They don't even need to know how to spell gybe.

Free Range is selling more towards the people of this forum. Here is what we do with our old boat, now lets do a refit, now lets sail some more.

The bouncer and the hooters waitress are still looking for their market. Here is what we do with our old boat, now lets do a refit, now lets sail some more. BTW look at the bikini shots.

UMA is no different except now they have some great shots in the North and less bikini shots.

What is extremely hilarious is that people arguing over entertainers and whether they can sail or not. They are entertainers, they dance for your pleasure. If you dont like the dance, go on. Watching this argument unfold is priceless.

If this was about sailing then we would all get bored with the excitement of 2.5 knots.

[loneshark64]

Originally Posted by Nahbrown

People are funny, they will pay cable to watch a crappy movie or tv shows and then look down their nose on those who watch youtube for free about things that actually interest them.

Well said. It’s not really different than any other form of TV; ads, subscriptions, product placement. Except anyone can try it, not just TV networks, cable companies, Netflix and Amazon. I applaud these people trying to build their own little entertainment businesses. Not sure why many sailors crap on them online. I like watching them in the winter, especially Erik Aanderaa. I just don’t like the soft porn ones and the way the algorithm pushes those ones.

Originally Posted by Chili Palmer

The one thing that irks me about Delo's is the fact they never show videos of anybody else but Brian, Kazza, and the baby.

That channel was MADE by having Brady and other friends on the channel and now they're never seen.

Brady moved to Tahoe, they aren’t hiding him he’s not on the boat. Saw an impending baby and got outta dodge.

[LittleWing77]

Originally Posted by seandepagnier

canadian is american after all, and usa is very similar country to canada

Absolutely untrue. This is a big misapprehension on the part of Amercians. Canada is NOT America and sorry to say, but we are very different from you.

LW77

[Sand crab]

I like the technical aspects.


Those vids that the Wynns did on looking for and then buying their boat were really informative. They gave us the details on price, escrow fees, upgrades etc and they actually paid for their boat themselves but I'm sure money made on the channel helped.



MJ Sailing is building their cat although the major structure arrived as a kit. It's going to take some time so you need dedication if you are interested.


Onboard lifestyle has done lots of mods to their cat. The husband is kinda OCD about things so everything comes out really nice. They recently built a large FG bimini and separate helm hard top so once again that part is interesting to me.


On the other hand Parleys boat seems like such a disaster and there is just too much going on. I'm sure he will fix it better than new but what a mess it is now. I don't watch it much anymore or should I say can't watch.