Lagoon 55/57 Not the 570

[canadian cat]

What is the good/bad about these cats?
How do they sail up wind in light to med wind.
What is the build quality?
How are they holding up after 15-20yrs
Are they over design weight?

[Sand crab]

I think all have the outboard exposed helms just like Catana. I'm not saying it's good or bad. There were some S versions. S as in sport and these were known to be pretty good performers. They had equipment like taller masts and were constructed lighter using the expensive stuff.

[Jeannius]

Best looking production cat EVER!

Several are still used as expensive crewed charter boats down in the BVI so that says a lot about the quality. Nowhere near as much accommodation as a modern 55ft boat but that is why they look so good. You have to compromise somewhere.

[Abaco]

I personally love the boats, the layout, and the helm location. Have to agree with Jeannius with respect to the looks. Saw one which had had a total refit to modernize it. Boats are very cool. Wish I could help you with regard to how the hulls are holding up. I assume they are balsa cored which represents some risk.

[1ercru]

Definitely one of VPLP's best looking designs! Looks fast even at anchor. These have always been head-turners even in the BVI where there are lots of dream boats. My recollection was that the 55 was extended to 57 to improve performance and that the hulls were not balsa cored but GRP w/carbon fibre.

Sadly, I've only had cocktails on one of these at anchor, but was seriously impressed. Jeanneau's high tech division hit the ball with this one.




Mike, Congrats on Selling Jeannius! Is it really this happiest day in a sailor's life?


Lanny

[Sand crab]

Originally Posted by 1ercru

Mike, Congrats on Selling Jeannius! Is it really this happiest day in a sailor's life? Lanny

Or the saddest?

[1ercru]

Originally Posted by Sand crab

Or the saddest?

I guess that could be a new thread topic!

[canadian cat]

I agree they look great, but are they overweight? Has anyone ever been passed by one?

[Jeannius]

Originally Posted by Sand crab

Or the saddest?

A long way from the happiest. We had so many great days, in great places, with great friends aboard Jeannius that the happiness of looking at the bank balance doesn't come close to the happiness of those times.

[1ercru]

I was looking at these myself, since I had very good experience sailing the JTA 47 for a couple of weeks, but it's a bit too much boat for just a couple and with the galley down it was a pass for us.

Check out this site: Lagoon 55 | Lagoon Inside it may/not give you some clues. With only twenty 55s & fourteen 57s and most of them going into charter fleets (read heavily loaded) not sure how many were raced to give you a clearer idea of true performance.

[Sand crab]

Originally Posted by 1ercru

I was looking at these myself, since I had very good experience sailing the TPI 47 for a couple of weeks, but it's a bit too much boat for just a couple and with the galley down it was a pass for us.

I didn't know there was a TPI 47. Are you sure?

[robert sailor]

Not knocking todays Cats but nothing I have seen will hold a candle to the lines on this one..cool machine!

[1ercru]

Originally Posted by Sand crab

I didn't know there was a TPI 47. Are you sure?

Thanks! Just realized I typed in TPI when I wanted JTA!

[canadian cat]

Are you saying the 47 is too big for a couple or the 57? In the original brochure they list 13,000kg for the 57. I would think it would take some work to get the boat anywhere close to that weight again. Also, came up with a Bruce number of 1.31 for the 57 using the brochure numbers. Which puts it in a good range for a family world cruiser.

[1ercru]

Originally Posted by canadian cat

Are you saying the 47 is too big for a couple or the 57? In the original brochure they list 13,000kg for the 57. I would think it would take some work to get the boat anywhere close to that weight again. Also, came up with a Bruce number of 1.31 for the 57 using the brochure numbers. Which puts it in a good range for a family world cruiser.

I was referring to the 55/57 as being too large for a couple (at least this couple!) My other thought on the 55/57 was the amount of maintenance that would likely be required on a boat that size and age.

I have no doubt they would sail well even overloaded, how well is a personal measure, especially with a modern set of sails.